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What now? MikeB 05-14-2008
---> Re: What now? Rob McAninch05-14-2008
Posted by MikeB on May 14, 2008, 4:13 pm
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OK, so I took this little "adult education" course on web design and
we did some HTML, some JavaScript and we're going to do some PHP next.

But I just tried my hand at designing a "real" web page and I suck!
Here's the prototype: http://fmechess.org/opc/index.html What I now
realize is how little I really know about these things.

What should I do to get better? More courses - does anyone know of
some web design courses? More books - What books? Please be relatively
kind. Thanks. Ideally I'd like to work on web pages, but I
realistically can see that I'm nowhere near good enough to think about
doing it for a living.

Oh, and if there is a newsgroup for generic web design conversations,
please let me know which one it is. Thanks again.

Posted by Ed Jay on May 14, 2008, 4:48 pm
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MikeB scribed:

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>OK, so I took this little "adult education" course on web design and
>we did some HTML, some JavaScript and we're going to do some PHP next.
>
>But I just tried my hand at designing a "real" web page and I suck!
>Here's the prototype: http://fmechess.org/opc/index.html What I now
>realize is how little I really know about these things.
>
>What should I do to get better? More courses - does anyone know of
>some web design courses? More books - What books? Please be relatively
>kind. Thanks. Ideally I'd like to work on web pages, but I
>realistically can see that I'm nowhere near good enough to think about
>doing it for a living.
>
>Oh, and if there is a newsgroup for generic web design conversations,
>please let me know which one it is. Thanks again.

I think you're off to a good start.

First, try validating the site and correct the little errors, especially the
one about specifying character encoding.

Don't use red for the text against the background. Not enough contrast.

Add some padding in your main content area, so the text is against the
edges.

You might want to take another look at of the content area. It's not
centered. You probably also want to shy away from absolute positioning, as
that may get you in trouble with some browsers. Make sure you look at the
site in all popular browsers. I don't like the background, but that's my
taste.
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Ed Jay (remove 'M' to respond by email)

Posted by Rob McAninch on May 14, 2008, 9:38 pm
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> OK, so I took this little "adult education" course [...] But I just
> tried my hand at designing a "real" web page and I suck!
> Here's the prototype: http://fmechess.org/opc/index.html What I now
> realize is how little I really know about these things.
>
> What should I do to get better? More courses - does anyone know of
> some web design courses? More books - What books?

Here are some related links http://rock13.com/webhelp/authoring.html

Are you looking for more experience in the 'programming' side of design
or the designing, i.e. the usability and aesthetics, itself?

I like the Oreilly books on most web topics if you need a reference
book handy. You might look at some site templates that appeal to you
and view the source to see how it was done.

> Please be relatively
> kind. Thanks. Ideally I'd like to work on web pages, but I
> realistically can see that I'm nowhere near good enough to think about
> doing it for a living.

You got to start somewhere. (Your own sites and demos being the safe
place, then voluntary projects may be a second level). :-)

> Oh, and if there is a newsgroup for generic web design conversations,
> please let me know which one it is. Thanks again.

c.i.w.a.site-design perhaps

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Rob McAninch
http://rock13.com/


Posted by Bergamot on May 15, 2008, 1:44 pm
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Rob McAninch wrote:
>
> Here are some related links http://rock13.com/webhelp/authoring.html

Joe Barta's tutorials? You must be joking. It's absolute rubbish and
full of bad practices. No one should be using such outdated crap any more.

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Berg


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