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What is google? Tom Impelluso 02-11-2008
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Posted by Jezsta Web Productions on February 12, 2008, 11:13 am
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>>> But, why is Microsoft willing to pay 40Billion
>>> to buy yahoo.com when they can just as well write
>>> a search engine themselves.
>> They have already one, so what would be the point.
>
> John, please don't reply to proven trolls. His message has already been
> blocked by my server - I don't need his nonsense second hand. And it's
> best never to feed the trolls once they've been identified.
>
> Thanks ;o)

I think you are the only one to think the OP is a spamming troll.



Posted by Tom Impelluso on February 12, 2008, 11:44 pm
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No Andrew, I am not a troll.
I wanted to understand and issue that is apparently beyond your ability
to discuss.

(And I knew you'd peek.)


On Tue, 12 Feb 2008, Andrew Heenan wrote:

> >> But, why is Microsoft willing to pay 40Billion
> >> to buy yahoo.com when they can just as well write
> >> a search engine themselves.
> > They have already one, so what would be the point.
>
> John, please don't reply to proven trolls. His message has already been
> blocked by my server - I don't need his nonsense second hand. And it's best
> never to feed the trolls once they've been identified.
>
> Thanks ;o)
>
> Andrew
> http://www.flayme.com/troll/
>
>
>


Posted by Big Bill on February 11, 2008, 7:03 pm
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On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:06:59 -0800, Tom Impelluso

>
>OK... I can buy that: simplicity.
>
>Now, make I make an argument
>(note to Andrew: I am playing devil's advocate here
>in an attempt to unearth things myself. I am not
>out to destroy you or your relationships with Google.
>And you already plonked me so you should not be
>reading this).
>
>I would agree because google does return things,
>simply.
>
>But, why is Microsoft willing to pay 40Billion
>to buy yahoo.com when they can just as well write
>a search engine themselves.
>
>I mean, it is not like these algorithms are as
>protected as Ze Zecret Formulas of ze cold war,
>right?
>
>Other than being an advertising firm (there are many
>now).
>and
>other than having written one of the first
>more lucid search engines (they deserve credit,
>but in the end, software is software)
>
>and
>other than having a data base of ready to roll sites...
>(and sites change)
>
>I still cannot fathom why a software firm like Yahoo
>is worth 40Bil, other than simply because people
>THINK it is worth 40Bil.

Well, there's your answer. Money's value is relative. A UKP will get
you what someone thinks it's worth.

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Posted by John Bokma on February 11, 2008, 1:27 pm
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> Hello,
>
> As I read about the attempt by Microsoft to take over Yahoo to compete
> with Google, I wonder: what is google?

[..]

> So, I ask... what is google or yahoo that it is worth so much money?
> At least HP MAKES computers, INTEL MAKES chips.

And Microsoft makes an operating system.

So the answer is: Google makes services available.

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Posted by Coffee's For Closers on February 11, 2008, 3:01 pm
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impellus@attila.sdsu.edu says...

> As I read about the attempt by Microsoft to take over Yahoo to compete
> with Google, I wonder: what is google?
>
> Is this nothing but a search engine? A piece of software?
>
> True, in the beginning Yahoo would search for terms, while Google would
> search for terms that had also been successfully searched for...
>
> But in the long run, both companies are just a piece of software.
>
> Now while *I* cannot write a search engine, I *believe* (and there may be
> my operative and misguided understanding), someone, with modicum of funds,
> could easily write one.
>
> Some might say "but Yahoo/Google" have amassed a data base of searches
> that make the search easier. But, could one not then argue that sites
> change: a site here today could be gone tomorrow?
>
> So, I ask... what is google or yahoo that it is worth so much money?
> At least HP MAKES computers, INTEL MAKES chips.
>
> What is Google?


Part of the value is "goodwill." Meaning the general popularity
of Google. How it is already positioned in the minds of so many
people.

Like the way that, the first page I visit each day is Google
News. And the fact that, I have my browser's "home page" button
set to Google.

And the way that some people use the name as a verb - "I should
Google that subject/person/event to get some more info."

It certainly isn't the only search engine I use, but it tends to
be the first choice. So I might try MSN and Yahoo afterwards, if
I'm not satisfied yet. Although for some things, I'll go
straight to Wikipedea or certain other reference type sites.

Also, Google has extended themselves into non-search tools, like
email and so forth. And they are working on more, like the idea
of a mobile phone/PDA thingy.

A lot of Google's dollar/market value is based on the established
mindset of me and millions of other people. Sort of like the way
a physical store or restaurant has "goodwill" value from its
reputation and repeat shoppers or diners who can be expected to
continue providing revenue, even if the place is sold to a new
owner.


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