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What html do I insert in opening Flash page to be search engine friendly? emailus 02-05-2007
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Posted by emailus on February 5, 2007, 12:24 pm
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I am webmaster for the domain <www.alpha1.org.au>.

Not being an expert in html, I take advantage of my domain
Registrant's web building tool, 'Instant Website'. This tool is
provided as part of the fee I pay for web hosting.

'Instant Website' provides the option of having your opening page as a
Flash Page, which you'll see if you visit <www.alpha1.org.au>. Well,
you'll see it if you visit from a Windows machine. For some reason,
when I use a Mac, my browser (both Safari and Firefox) tells me that I
don't have the required Macromedia Flash Plugin, despite me having
installed it. (As an aside, if anyone has a solution for this little
mystery I'd be happy to hear it). So if you're a Mac user, to see the
Flash Page, go to URL <www.alpha1.org.au/flashpage.html>.

Having submitted the domain <www.alpha1.org.au> to major search
engines some time back, such as Google and Yahoo!, and having
confirmed that these search engine's web crawlers had in fact indexed
the domain, I tried searching on some obvious search terms, eg.
Alpha-1 Association Australia. The search results displayed do not
seem to include <www.alpha1.org.au>.

I think I've figured out that this has something to do with the
opening page being the Flash page, and this opening page does not
contain a link to the rest of the site's pages. In terms of the Flash
page at least, Instant Website is very restrictive with what can be
included on this Flash page, and so the search engines' web crawlers
are not accessing the rest of the domain's pages. I don't know if this
is the case for sure, happy to be corrected here, but that seems a
logical explanation to me.

I could of course forget about the idea of having the opening page as
a Flash page. But for now at least, I'd prefer to keep it.

Given that I can't edit the Flash page via Instant Website, I have
managed to figure out how to access the web site's files via an ftp
client. And presumably, I can edit these files via an html editor (in
the absence of any better suggestion I have 'Taco HTML Edit'), and
then upload them via ftp. At least this is what my Registrant has
suggested.

So, my question. Can anyone suggest what I should insert into which
page so that (i) I retain the Flash page when someone visits
<www.alpha1.org.au>, and (ii) web crawlers are able to see beyond the
Flash page into the bowels of the site? One of the pages that are
amongst those that appear when I ftp the site is <flashpage.html>. I'm
guessing this is the page which I need to edit. Would it be best to
insert a Meta Tag (which I understand many search engines ignore?), or
just a link to, say, URL <http://www.alpha1.org.au/home.html>, from
which a web crawler can then access the rest of the site? One thing I
need to bear in mind is the impact on what a visitor sees when viewing
the Flash page. Or am I way off track with any of this thinking?

Any tips appeciated.

Cheers, Steven


Posted by Beauregard T. Shagnasty on February 5, 2007, 12:42 pm
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emailus@knowles.net.au wrote:

> I am webmaster for the domain <www.alpha1.org.au>.
>
> Not being an expert

..I send annoying music, without asking, and piss off my visitors.

Thanks for interfering with the nice mellow jazz I was listening to at
the time. Result: Instant Back Button.

Well, a short answer to your question. Search engines cannot click on
your silly [ Skip ] button, so they never see your site. Replace the
index.html file with the home.html file.

Fix all the errors:
<http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alpha1.org.au%2Fhome.html>

Oh wait. Your web site generator probably won't be able to do that.

--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

Posted by emailus on February 5, 2007, 12:56 pm
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On Feb 6, 3:42 am, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
> emai...@knowles.net.au wrote:
> > I am webmaster for the domain <www.alpha1.org.au>.
>
> > Not being an expert
>
> ..I send annoying music, without asking, and piss off my visitors.
>
> Thanks for interfering with the nice mellow jazz I was listening to at
> the time. Result: Instant Back Button.
>
> Well, a short answer to your question. Search engines cannot click on
> your silly [ Skip ] button, so they never see your site. Replace the
> index.html file with the home.html file.
>
> Fix all the errors:
> <http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alpha1.o...>
>
> Oh wait. Your web site generator probably won't be able to do that.


Before replying, I just checked your past posts to see if you were
this insolent towards everyone.

You are! Mate, just don't bother replying, that's your best bet.


Posted by Beauregard T. Shagnasty on February 5, 2007, 1:28 pm
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emailus@knowles.net.au wrote:

> Before replying, I just checked your past posts to see if you were
> this insolent towards everyone.
>
> You are! Mate, just don't bother replying, that's your best bet.

I'm soooo sorry. My most humble apologies for making a point.

You have a beautiful web site. Carry on.

--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

Posted by David E. Ross on February 5, 2007, 12:50 pm
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emailus@knowles.net.au wrote:
> I am webmaster for the domain <www.alpha1.org.au>.
>
> Not being an expert in html, I take advantage of my domain
> Registrant's web building tool, 'Instant Website'. This tool is
> provided as part of the fee I pay for web hosting.
>
> 'Instant Website' provides the option of having your opening page as a
> Flash Page, which you'll see if you visit <www.alpha1.org.au>. Well,
> you'll see it if you visit from a Windows machine. For some reason,
> when I use a Mac, my browser (both Safari and Firefox) tells me that I
> don't have the required Macromedia Flash Plugin, despite me having
> installed it. (As an aside, if anyone has a solution for this little
> mystery I'd be happy to hear it). So if you're a Mac user, to see the
> Flash Page, go to URL <www.alpha1.org.au/flashpage.html>.
>
> Having submitted the domain <www.alpha1.org.au> to major search
> engines some time back, such as Google and Yahoo!, and having
> confirmed that these search engine's web crawlers had in fact indexed
> the domain, I tried searching on some obvious search terms, eg.
> Alpha-1 Association Australia. The search results displayed do not
> seem to include <www.alpha1.org.au>.
>
> I think I've figured out that this has something to do with the
> opening page being the Flash page, and this opening page does not
> contain a link to the rest of the site's pages. In terms of the Flash
> page at least, Instant Website is very restrictive with what can be
> included on this Flash page, and so the search engines' web crawlers
> are not accessing the rest of the domain's pages. I don't know if this
> is the case for sure, happy to be corrected here, but that seems a
> logical explanation to me.
>
> I could of course forget about the idea of having the opening page as
> a Flash page. But for now at least, I'd prefer to keep it.
>
> Given that I can't edit the Flash page via Instant Website, I have
> managed to figure out how to access the web site's files via an ftp
> client. And presumably, I can edit these files via an html editor (in
> the absence of any better suggestion I have 'Taco HTML Edit'), and
> then upload them via ftp. At least this is what my Registrant has
> suggested.
>
> So, my question. Can anyone suggest what I should insert into which
> page so that (i) I retain the Flash page when someone visits
> <www.alpha1.org.au>, and (ii) web crawlers are able to see beyond the
> Flash page into the bowels of the site? One of the pages that are
> amongst those that appear when I ftp the site is <flashpage.html>. I'm
> guessing this is the page which I need to edit. Would it be best to
> insert a Meta Tag (which I understand many search engines ignore?), or
> just a link to, say, URL <http://www.alpha1.org.au/home.html>, from
> which a web crawler can then access the rest of the site? One thing I
> need to bear in mind is the impact on what a visitor sees when viewing
> the Flash page. Or am I way off track with any of this thinking?
>
> Any tips appeciated.
>
> Cheers, Steven
>

The alternative of not having a instroductory Flash page is best. My
browser disables Flash presentations unless I explicitly enable a
specific presentation. I only enable those that are necessary for why I
am viewing the page; that is, I do not enable gratuitous Flash
presentations, presentations that are there only for decoration or
amusement. See my
<http://www.rossde.com/internet/Webdevelopers.html#flash> for more about
the use of Flash.

Note that your actual home page at <http://www.alpha1.org.au/home.html>
has 75 HTML errors, a result of using Instant Website.

--

David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

I use SeaMonkey as my Web browser because I want
a browser that complies with Web standards. See
<http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/>.

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