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WYSIWYG HTML Editors prt7u 02-14-2007
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Posted by prt7u on February 14, 2007, 10:38 am
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Howdy,

I've started back afte a very long time of working with web pages for
an organization that I am affiliated with (personally not
professionally). Seeing that technology has advanced a lot since the
last time I authored web pages (using vi), I am looking for a good,
"free" WYSIWYG HTML Editor.

Now, before ya go and hit the reply key, I've already tinkered with
"amaya" which was pretty cool and then I moved to "Nvu", which I like
but I wish would handle frames. For some reason it has trouble with
them.

Having said that, the only other thing would be that I would like it to
run on my MacBook.

Thanks in advance,

Pete


Posted by Beauregard T. Shagnasty on February 14, 2007, 11:07 am
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prt7u wrote:

> but I wish would handle frames. For some reason it has trouble with
> them.

Maybe that is a Good Thing™. <g>

You've probably seen this page before...
<http://www.html-faq.com/htmlframes/?FramesAreEvil>

Sorry, can't help you with a WYSIWYDG. I use a text editor.

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Posted by Lars Eighner on February 14, 2007, 1:24 pm
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talented prt7u broadcast on comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html:

> Howdy,

> I've started back afte a very long time of working with web pages for
> an organization that I am affiliated with (personally not
> professionally). Seeing that technology has advanced a lot since the
> last time I authored web pages (using vi), I am looking for a good,
> "free" WYSIWYG HTML Editor.

This used to be a frequently asked question. The answer is that there
cannot be any such thing. If you scan the subject headers in this group you
will see many of the sort "Looks good in Firefox, but wrong in IE." What
your documents in a browser depends upon the rendering engine of the
browser, which is why a WYSIWYG editor is impossible: it cannot know what
brower(s) will be used to view the document (and that does not even take
into account things like color which depend not only on the browser, but
also upon the hardware and hardware adjusments. Moreover, the "what you
see" should be adjusted in CSS, not HTML --- and no, there isn't a WYSISWYG
CSS editor either.

> Now, before ya go and hit the reply key, I've already tinkered with
> "amaya" which was pretty cool and then I moved to "Nvu", which I like
> but I wish would handle frames. For some reason it has trouble with
> them.

The numerous reasons that frames are a bad idea are also frequent answers to
questions.

> Having said that, the only other thing would be that I would like it to
> run on my MacBook.

> Thanks in advance,

> Pete

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Posted by Andreas Borutta on February 14, 2007, 8:23 pm
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Lars Eighner schrieb:

>> I am looking for a good,
>> "free" WYSIWYG HTML Editor.
>
> This used to be a frequently asked question. The answer is that there
> cannot be any such thing.

That's true.
We better talk about the only reasonable type of html-editor for human
authors:
WYSIWY*M*

Or do you like to edit data tables in your texteditor?
Or are you as fast in editing data tables in a texteditor as in a
WYSIWYM editor?
Or do you never edit data tables by hand?

But a data table is only the most obvious markup, for which a
texteditor is a poor tool.
A texteditor annoys an author with letting him view unneccessary
things - in standard situations (=standard markup).
In non-standard situations, of course, a texteditor is a must.

But well. That topic isn't one, which is traditionally discussed
unprejudiced. ;)

Andreas
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Posted by Lars Eighner on February 14, 2007, 9:36 pm
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Andreas Borutta broadcast on comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html:

> Lars Eighner schrieb:

>>> I am looking for a good,
>>> "free" WYSIWYG HTML Editor.
>>
>> This used to be a frequently asked question. The answer is that there
>> cannot be any such thing.

> That's true.
> We better talk about the only reasonable type of html-editor for human
> authors:
> WYSIWY*M*

> Or do you like to edit data tables in your texteditor?

For the most part, I edit data in a database and php (re)creates the tables
faster than I could in any kind of editor.

> Or are you as fast in editing data tables in a texteditor as in a
> WYSIWYM editor?

I'm sure I am. Why in the world would one editor be any faster than the
other.

> Or do you never edit data tables by hand?

Seldom. But if the html were ever too messy to read, I;d get my editor to
pipe it through tidy.

> But a data table is only the most obvious markup, for which a
> texteditor is a poor tool.
> A texteditor annoys an author with letting him view unneccessary
> things - in standard situations (=standard markup).

On the contrary, it makes it clear to the author what, exactly, he is
writing. How do you enter a copyright symbol in a so-called WYSIWYG
editor? Well, you go up to the menu, pull down something, hunt through
a table of characters, etc. In my text editor, it's Meta-aOc. An
eacute? Meta-ae'. It's Meta-a + how you would compose the character
with a typewriter: cent sign Meta-ac/. What could be easier?

> In non-standard situations, of course, a texteditor is a must.

> But well. That topic isn't one, which is traditionally discussed
> unprejudiced. ;)

> Andreas
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