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Vundo John 01-18-2008
|   ---> Re: Vundo David H. Lipman01-18-2008
|   |   `--> Re: Vundo David H. Lipman01-18-2008
|   `--> Re: Vundo NonSuch [MVP]01-20-2008
---> Re: Vundo Volodymyr Shche...01-18-2008
|   `--> Re: Vundo Volodymyr Shche...01-21-2008
|--> Re: Vundo David H. Lipman01-18-2008
---> Re: Vundo Kerry Brown01-18-2008
| ---> Re: Vundo David H. Lipman01-18-2008
| |   ---> Re: Vundo Kerry Brown01-18-2008
| |     |--> Re: Vundo David H. Lipman01-18-2008
| |     |--> Re: Vundo BoaterDave01-20-2008
| ---> Re: Vundo Kerry Brown01-25-2008
|   ---> Re: Vundo David H. Lipman01-23-2008
`--> Re: Vundo What's in a Nam...01-19-2008
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Posted by antioch on January 25, 2008, 3:22 pm
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> I recently saw the first system in several years where I couldn't identify
> the malware that was installed and remove it. It was playing tricks with
> the mbr among other things. It did initially look like a vundo variant. It
> was not mebroot or if it was it has changed considerably. Even overwriting
> the mbr then booting from a Linux CD to inspect suspicious files I
> couldn't get rid of it. It would come back as soon as explorer loaded in
> safe or normal mode. I'm guessing it infects some system files as well as
> the mbr and the scanners I was using didn't identify it yet. It is getting
> very nasty. I think that more and more the solution will be backup the
> data then flatten the system. If the malware starts attacking the factory
> restore partition then even that method of cleaning a system will be
> beyond most people's abilities :-(
>
> --
> Kerry Brown
> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
> http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/
>
>
Kerry
Your reference to Mebroot rang a bell -
This link to an article in a UK Comp Magazine may be of interest - unless of
course you are already aware.

http://www.computeractive.co.uk/computeractive/news/2207251/mebroot-attack-takes-security

Rgds
Antioch



Posted by Kerry Brown on January 25, 2008, 6:57 pm
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>
>
>> I recently saw the first system in several years where I couldn't
>> identify the malware that was installed and remove it. It was playing
>> tricks with the mbr among other things. It did initially look like a
>> vundo variant. It was not mebroot or if it was it has changed
>> considerably. Even overwriting the mbr then booting from a Linux CD to
>> inspect suspicious files I couldn't get rid of it. It would come back as
>> soon as explorer loaded in safe or normal mode. I'm guessing it infects
>> some system files as well as the mbr and the scanners I was using didn't
>> identify it yet. It is getting very nasty. I think that more and more the
>> solution will be backup the data then flatten the system. If the malware
>> starts attacking the factory restore partition then even that method of
>> cleaning a system will be beyond most people's abilities :-(
>>
>> --
>> Kerry Brown
>> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
>> http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/
>>
>>
> Kerry
> Your reference to Mebroot rang a bell -
> This link to an article in a UK Comp Magazine may be of interest - unless
> of course you are already aware.


I haven't actually seen mebroot but I've read quite a bit about it. This was
a three pronged infection that appeared to use the same method as mebroot
(altering the mbr) as one of it's infections. From what I have read about
mebroot it was not mebroot but some other malware that used a similar method
to hide. This was actually a very common method for viruses to spread back
when floppy disks were used more.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/




Posted by John on January 22, 2008, 1:43 pm
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| Hi David, After reading your answer to this post i went to Task Manger
| and found five (5) svchost.exe services running - 3 Network Services ,
| and 2 System. Now after seeing your answer and checking
| Process Library and finding out this svchost.exe could be used by a
| Trojan, How can i find out the path's of these services in Task Manger
| like in your example? Thanks Ron (Defender)
|

It is common to have multiple SVCHOST.EXE processes running. Each load
specifcommunication
capabilities of the OS.

Like I said, it is not the name of the file that is important, it is the Fully
Qualified
Name and Path to that file.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



Posted by John on January 23, 2008, 2:57 pm
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| Hi David, After reading your answer to this post i went to Task Manger
| and found five (5) svchost.exe services running - 3 Network Services ,
| and 2 System. Now after seeing your answer and checking
| Process Library and finding out this svchost.exe could be used by a
| Trojan, How can i find out the path's of these services in Task Manger
| like in your example? Thanks Ron (Defender)
|

It is common to have multiple SVCHOST.EXE processes running. Each load
specifcommunication
capabilities of the OS.

Like I said, it is not the name of the file that is important, it is the Fully
Qualified
Name and Path to that file.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



Posted by David H. Lipman on January 23, 2008, 4:22 pm
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| Hi David, After reading your answer to this post i went to Task Manger
| and found five (5) svchost.exe services running - 3 Network Services ,
| and 2 System. Now after seeing your answer and checking
| Process Library and finding out this svchost.exe could be used by a
| Trojan, How can i find out the path's of these services in Task Manger
| like in your example? Thanks Ron (Defender)
|

It is common to have multiple SVCHOST.EXE processes running. Each load
specifcommunication
capabilities of the OS.

Like I said, it is not the name of the file that is important, it is the Fully
Qualified
Name and Path to that file.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



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