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Vista's big problem: 92 percent of developers ignoring it BillW50 06-16-2008
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Posted by GG Willikers on June 21, 2008, 10:43 am
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>
> Haven't you been listening? Besides getting a glorified PDA called a
> Asus EEE PC, where are you going to find a new laptop without Vista?
> Pickings are few.

I disagree. The tide has been turning against Vista for awhile.
>>
>> What do you think? Vista can vanish tomorrow as far as I'm concerned
>> and good riddance to bad rubbish!
>
> Well nice to agree somewhere. ;-)
>
LENOVO, HP and DELL corporate class laptops will have XP driver support
for a long time to come. They already do for most models.


Posted by Daniel James on June 22, 2008, 7:32 am
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BillW50 wrote:
> > Laptop users would be well advised to choose an OS with lower
hardware
> > requirements and so lower power consumption.
>
> Where are you going to find drivers for the new hardware that you buy?
> Easier said than done. Virtually anything you buy nowadays will have
> Vista drivers and nothing else.

If you want a laptop and don't want Vista, buy a laptop that comes with
something other that Vista installed -- it will come with all the
drivers it requires.

Dell, for example, can supply laptops with XP or Ubuntu installed. No
need to buy Vista at all. Just say no.

If you can only find Windows laptops supplied with Vista, kick up a
stink until someone starts putting XP on again -- or buy a Mac.

Remember: The customer *IS* always right.

> Haven't you been listening? Besides getting a glorified PDA called a
> Asus EEE PC, where are you going to find a new laptop without Vista?
> Pickings are few.

<smile> The EEE is a great machine -- but much too big to be a PDA.

Don't roll over, wag your tail, and buy Vista just because MS tells you
to. If you want XP *demand* it! Buy from someone who still sells it --
and write to all the suppliers who only offer Vista explaining that you
might have bought one of their machines if they'd been able to offer
something that was appropriate for the purpose.

Cheers,
Daniel.





Posted by Conor on June 17, 2008, 7:16 am
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> BillW50 wrote:
>
> > Vista's big problem: 92 percent of developers ignoring it
> > http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-9969231-16.html
> >
> * * *
> Windows 7 is not that far off in the future, and then vista's days will be
> numbered...

Indeed. A 3 year release cycle, the same as all other Windows OSes
apart from XP is real poor isn't it?

> XP is still a lot better in many areas, all the stuff you
> purchased works with it... Windows 7 is reported to let you use your old
> stiff again, it will run both vista and windows XP drivers...
>
Oh. Dear.


--
Conor

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looking good either. - Scott Adams

Posted by Daniel James on June 17, 2008, 6:56 am
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BillW50 wrote:
> Vista's big problem: 92 percent of developers ignoring it
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-9969231-16.html

Not surprised to hear it! The big increase in development for Mac
reported there (380%) is slightly surprising, but welcome.

I'm a developer. I don't ignore Vista (we test on it) but I certainly
wouldn't make use of any feature in Vista that would prevent my apps
from running on XP (or Win2k, for that matter).

Vista has useful improvements -- particularly in security -- that are
worth having, but nothing that couldn't be retro-fitted into XP (and
little that can't be done in XP OOTB). Almost everything else is either
eye-candy or evil pointless DRM.

Cheers,
Daniel.



Posted by RnR on June 17, 2008, 12:14 pm
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>Vista's big problem: 92 percent of developers ignoring it
>http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-9969231-16.html


If true, I'd say they all can't be wrong and have good reason to do
so. I was going to switch OS's but after reading at least 90%
negative opinions, I decided to stay with XP. The improvements vs.
the incompatibilities (tho I understand it has improved) is not worth
the trouble to me. I just read yesterday or so, the only real
improvement is in security and that's about it and I think with 3rd
party security I'm in as good as shape as I'd be with Vista; hence no
reason for me to switch nowadays. I also read Corporate users will
likely skip Vista too.

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