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Valid HTML Tutorial Safalra 12-06-2005
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Posted by Safalra on December 6, 2005, 12:12 pm
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When a poster in a forum I frequent said they were beginning to learn HTML,
I thought I should direct them to a good HTML tutorial so that they
wouldn't start using <blink> and the like. Remembering that this group has
discussed HTML tutorials several times in the past, I searched the Google
Groups archives, but all I can find are tutorials unfortunately
demonstrating Flavell's Law. Searching the internet, the only accurate
tutorials for valid HTML I can find are very basic. Ideally I'd like
something meeting the following criteria:

- teaches valid HTML, including the rarer elements
- covers browser compatibility issues (such as <abbr> and <acronym>)
- addresses accessibility issues (such as alt text)
- mentions some usability issues (such as navigation)
- covers (at least in basic form) formatting using CSS

Is there a tutorial (or even a couple of tutorials) that covers all of
this, or will I have to write one myself?

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Posted by Tony on December 6, 2005, 10:53 am
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>Is there a tutorial (or even a couple of tutorials) that covers all of
>this, or will I have to write one myself?

I have found http://www.quirksmode.org to be a great resource -
although it addresses mostly CSS & javascript, not as much emphasis on
the straight HTML.

Have you checked out the w3schools and webmonkey tutorials? That's the
first place I would probably send someone - although I'll admit I
haven't used them in quite a long time...


Posted by Tim on December 7, 2005, 9:36 pm
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On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 10:53:28 -0800, Tony sent:

> Have you checked out the w3schools

I'd advise against it. It's full of errors, and that sort of thing leads
the new comer in the wrong direction.

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Posted by Gérard Talbot on December 13, 2005, 3:09 pm
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Tony wrote :
>>Is there a tutorial (or even a couple of tutorials) that covers all of
>>this, or will I have to write one myself?


> Have you checked out the w3schools and webmonkey tutorials?


I disagree. w3schools.com is full of errors, is not updated on a
regular/continuous basis, shows examples without any doctype
declaration, etc.

webmonkey.com uses unrequested popup windows (is that how you should
teach others to do site entrance pages??), is full of markup validation
errors (over 200 per page), etc.

I recommend instead

Creating websites with CSS and (X)HTML: tutorials and lessons from
Alsacreations
http://tutorials.alsacreations.com/

Web Design Group Web Authoring FAQ
http://www.htmlhelp.com/faq/html/

HTML Dog
http://www.htmldog.com/

Gérard
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Posted by Lachlan Hunt on December 6, 2005, 12:42 pm
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Safalra wrote:
> Searching the internet, the only accurate tutorials for valid HTML I
> can find are very basic. Ideally I'd like something meeting the
> following criteria:
>
> - teaches valid HTML, including the rarer elements
> - covers browser compatibility issues (such as <abbr> and <acronym>)
> - addresses accessibility issues (such as alt text)
> - mentions some usability issues (such as navigation)
> - covers (at least in basic form) formatting using CSS

Add to that teaching that XHTML is not as simple as writing HTML in XML
syntax, and starts by teaching HTML 4, rather than XHTML, as XHTML is
not really suitable for beginners.

> Is there a tutorial (or even a couple of tutorials) that covers all of
> this, or will I have to write one myself?

Take a look through the comments of this article, there's lots of HTML
and CSS tutorials and other resources mentioned.

http://www.mezzoblue.com/archives/2004/08/25/standards_re/index.php

I've never actually found a tutorial that meets all that criteria
myself. I'd like to though.

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