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Posted by Andy on June 20, 2009, 6:19 pm
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Hi,
I am presently using XHTML and CSS for all my web page design needs.
However, I still find people use tables to layout content (entire
pages) instead of CSS.
Are tables still being used for web page layout? Lidl's website comes
to mind (http://www.lidl.com).
Would it not be better to use CSS in all cases or are there some
instances when layout with tables would be better?
Cheers,
Andy R.
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Posted by Gary Peek on June 20, 2009, 8:49 pm
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Andy wrote:
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> ... be better to use CSS in all cases or are there some
> instances when layout with tables would be better?
When you actually need to get some work completed.
One place I find tables to be better is when I have tried
for hours to make a layout work using CSS, researched the
problem for hours, found out that there are numerous "hacks"
for _maybe_ making it work in the more ignorantly designed
browsers (guess which), and then just giving up and using
tables, which work the first time, with all browsers, (and
looks fine).
(And makes everyone happy except those who "View Source" and
say, "They did that layout with tables, that's naughty!")
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Posted by Chaddy2222 on June 21, 2009, 1:15 am
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> Andy wrote:
> > ... be better to use CSS in all cases or are there some
> > instances when layout with tables would be better?
> When you actually need to get some work completed.
> One place I find tables to be better is when I have tried
> for hours to make a layout work using CSS, researched the
> problem for hours, found out that there are numerous "hacks"
> for _maybe_ making it work in the more ignorantly designed
> browsers (guess which), and then just giving up and using
> tables, which work the first time, with all browsers, (and
> looks fine).
> (And makes everyone happy except those who "View Source" and
> say, "They did that layout with tables, that's naughty!")
This argument of useing tables for layout, or not has nothing to do
with looks. It has a lot to do with makeing websites more accessible
and user-friendly, by useing code that is marked-up sermanticly. In
other words, if something needs to be placed in a paragraph,, then use
one. If you want some kind of colum layout, use div's and just float
the content. It is not hard, http://3rar-sa-assoc.org.au does not use
a single table.
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Regards Chad. http://freewebdesignonline.org
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Posted by Jeff on June 22, 2009, 10:02 am
Please log in for more thread options Chaddy2222 wrote:
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>> Andy wrote:
>>> ... be better to use CSS in all cases or are there some
>>> instances when layout with tables would be better?
>> When you actually need to get some work completed.
>> One place I find tables to be better is when I have tried
>> for hours to make a layout work using CSS, researched the
>> problem for hours, found out that there are numerous "hacks"
>> for _maybe_ making it work in the more ignorantly designed
>> browsers (guess which), and then just giving up and using
>> tables, which work the first time, with all browsers, (and
>> looks fine).
>> (And makes everyone happy except those who "View Source" and
>> say, "They did that layout with tables, that's naughty!")
>
> This argument of useing tables for layout, or not has nothing to do
> with looks. It has a lot to do with makeing websites more accessible
> and user-friendly, by useing code that is marked-up sermanticly. In
> other words, if something needs to be placed in a paragraph,, then use
> one. If you want some kind of colum layout, use div's and just float
> the content. It is not hard, http://3rar-sa-assoc.org.au does not use
> a single table.
Chaddy, I'm going to give you some advice even though you may not
want it.
"Columns" should all start at the same height.
Colors should all have the same relationship whether are all the same
hue, are triads or complementary.
Watch your negative space.
Jeff
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> Regards Chad. http://freewebdesignonline.org
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Posted by Scott Bryce on June 21, 2009, 9:34 am
Please log in for more thread options Gary Peek wrote:
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> (And makes everyone happy except
the person who has to maintain the site.
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