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Toshiba Tecra 8000 power connector repair Ben Hutchings 10-15-2005
Posted by Ben Hutchings on October 15, 2005, 8:48 pm
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I have a second-hand Tecra 8000 on which the power socket for the AC
adapter recently stopped working. I have verified that the AC adapter
is producing the expected 15 V and the laptop continues to operate on
battery power, so it is only the external power connection that is
faulty. I disassembled the laptop, following instructions in the
field service manual, and found that the connection between the power
socket and the motherboard was cracked, so I resoldered it with the
help of a friend.

Following that, the laptop ran from mains power for an hour or so, but
then switched back to the battery. A little fiddling with the power
plug persuaded it to run off the mains for a little longer, but again
it reverted to battery power. The connection between socket and board
seems to be good, so perhaps there is another part of the external
power connection that is faulty. Have you come across a problem like
this before, and if so how did you fix it? Are schematics for the
Tecra 8000 motherboard available?

--
Ben Hutchings
Always try to do things in chronological order;
it's less confusing that way.


Posted by jakdedert on October 16, 2005, 6:48 pm
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Ben Hutchings wrote:
> I have a second-hand Tecra 8000 on which the power socket for the AC
> adapter recently stopped working. I have verified that the AC adapter
> is producing the expected 15 V and the laptop continues to operate on
> battery power, so it is only the external power connection that is
> faulty. I disassembled the laptop, following instructions in the
> field service manual, and found that the connection between the power
> socket and the motherboard was cracked, so I resoldered it with the
> help of a friend.
>
> Following that, the laptop ran from mains power for an hour or so, but
> then switched back to the battery. A little fiddling with the power
> plug persuaded it to run off the mains for a little longer, but again
> it reverted to battery power. The connection between socket and board
> seems to be good, so perhaps there is another part of the external
> power connection that is faulty. Have you come across a problem like
> this before, and if so how did you fix it? Are schematics for the
> Tecra 8000 motherboard available?
>

If you're able to get it to connect by fiddling with the power
connector, then there's likely still a loose connection.

Modern circuit boards contain many layers...IOW, they're like a number
of old-fashioned double-sided boards glued together. Where there is a
connection from one board to another, the hole is 'plated through' so
that anything soldered to that hole connects to each layer. When that
connection gets damaged physically, that plating is sometimes lost, so
that soldering to the top or bottom layer does not electrically connect
to the intervening layers.

You're only option--short of replacing the entire motherboard--is to
attempt to solder it again. Hopefully the solder will flow through to
the middle layers and make a good, solid connection.

jak



Posted by Ben Hutchings on October 17, 2005, 4:09 pm
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> Ben Hutchings wrote:
>> I have a second-hand Tecra 8000 on which the power socket for the AC
>> adapter recently stopped working. I have verified that the AC adapter
>> is producing the expected 15 V and the laptop continues to operate on
>> battery power, so it is only the external power connection that is
>> faulty. I disassembled the laptop, following instructions in the
>> field service manual, and found that the connection between the power
>> socket and the motherboard was cracked, so I resoldered it with the
>> help of a friend.
<snip>
> If you're able to get it to connect by fiddling with the power
> connector, then there's likely still a loose connection.

By the time I posted, I wasn't able to make a connection at all.

> Modern circuit boards contain many layers...IOW, they're like a number
> of old-fashioned double-sided boards glued together. Where there is a
> connection from one board to another, the hole is 'plated through' so
> that anything soldered to that hole connects to each layer. When that
> connection gets damaged physically, that plating is sometimes lost, so
> that soldering to the top or bottom layer does not electrically connect
> to the intervening layers.

Yes. That's exactly what the problem was. (I actually worked this
out by myself, but thanks anyway.)

> You're only option--short of replacing the entire motherboard--is to
> attempt to solder it again. Hopefully the solder will flow through to
> the middle layers and make a good, solid connection.

That didn't work for me, unfortunately.

For the benefit of anyone else who runs into this problem, I'll
explain my solution.

When I inspected the board closely I realised I could see connections
through the middle of the board to a square component near to the
power socket. The top left pin connects to ground (socket shield)
and the top right to +15 V (socket centre). I soldered a new wire on
the outside of the board for the latter connection, and the laptop
seems happy to run on external power again.

--
Ben Hutchings
Absolutum obsoletum. (If it works, it's out of date.) - Stafford Beer


Posted by jakdedert on October 17, 2005, 10:31 am
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Ben Hutchings wrote:
>
>>Ben Hutchings wrote:
>>
>>>I have a second-hand Tecra 8000 on which the power socket for the AC
>>>adapter recently stopped working. I have verified that the AC adapter
>>>is producing the expected 15 V and the laptop continues to operate on
>>>battery power, so it is only the external power connection that is
>>>faulty. I disassembled the laptop, following instructions in the
>>>field service manual, and found that the connection between the power
>>>socket and the motherboard was cracked, so I resoldered it with the
>>>help of a friend.
>
> <snip>
>
>>If you're able to get it to connect by fiddling with the power
>>connector, then there's likely still a loose connection.
>
>
> By the time I posted, I wasn't able to make a connection at all.
>
>
>>Modern circuit boards contain many layers...IOW, they're like a number
>>of old-fashioned double-sided boards glued together. Where there is a
>>connection from one board to another, the hole is 'plated through' so
>>that anything soldered to that hole connects to each layer. When that
>>connection gets damaged physically, that plating is sometimes lost, so
>>that soldering to the top or bottom layer does not electrically connect
>>to the intervening layers.
>
>
> Yes. That's exactly what the problem was. (I actually worked this
> out by myself, but thanks anyway.)
>
>
>>You're only option--short of replacing the entire motherboard--is to
>>attempt to solder it again. Hopefully the solder will flow through to
>>the middle layers and make a good, solid connection.
>
>
> That didn't work for me, unfortunately.
>
> For the benefit of anyone else who runs into this problem, I'll
> explain my solution.
>
> When I inspected the board closely I realised I could see connections
> through the middle of the board to a square component near to the
> power socket. The top left pin connects to ground (socket shield)
> and the top right to +15 V (socket centre). I soldered a new wire on
> the outside of the board for the latter connection, and the laptop
> seems happy to run on external power again.
>

Lucky you. Good call. I'd have probably given up on it.

jak



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