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Posted by Paul D.Smith on April 5, 2006, 11:30 am
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All,
I've been given a couple of old Toshibas, one of which displays the flashing
amber LED code for "B3V low voltage". A quick "Google" seems to indicate
that this is very common in Toshibas and the usual result is "get new
motherboard".
So, are certain Toshibas really so unreliable and if so, did anyone take
them to court over this?
Just curious.
Paul DS.
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Posted by BigJim on April 5, 2006, 1:41 pm
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all laptops are like any other piece of equipment, it just depends how it
was taken care of.
> All,
>
> I've been given a couple of old Toshibas, one of which displays the
> flashing
> amber LED code for "B3V low voltage". A quick "Google" seems to indicate
> that this is very common in Toshibas and the usual result is "get new
> motherboard".
>
> So, are certain Toshibas really so unreliable and if so, did anyone take
> them to court over this?
>
> Just curious.
> Paul DS.
>
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> Please remove the "x-" if replying to sender.
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Posted by Quaoar on April 5, 2006, 1:49 pm
Please log in for more thread options BigJim wrote:
> all laptops are like any other piece of equipment, it just depends how it
> was taken care of.
This is a completely disingenuous statement. Notebook computers are one
of the very few consumer items that are subject to instantaneous failure
without user recourse past the warranty due to nothing more nor less
than design failure on the part of the vendor's manufacturer.
Your characterization that the user is the source of notebook failure
due to abuse is completely denied by the facts as we know them; you are
parroting the standard vendor response to many cases of failures both
in- and out-of warranty. The main fact, as we know it from practice, is
that notebook computer vendors are not held to the same standards of
merchantability and usability to which other products are held by law.
Q
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Posted by Paul D.Smith on April 6, 2006, 3:58 am
Please log in for more thread options > all laptops are like any other piece of equipment, it just depends how it
> was taken care of.
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Jim,
I would agree but for one problem, the common nature of this specific
problem. Laptops that are dropped or abused commonly loose LCDs, cases
crack, hinges break, but from what I've read, this fault is different.
B3V is some part of the power supply of the notebook (the 3V power supply,
surprisingly ;-) ). This involves parts which are on the motherboard. Now
given the range of models involved, my guess would be that this is a common
component which is simply "not up to it".
If I discover which piece it is in the old notebook that I have, I'll report
back. Personally, expecting a notebook to die at some point - well
possible. Having a range of notebooks from the same manufacturer die for
the same reason in the same componentry - that smacks of fundamental design
flaw!
BTW, you may be interested in one such flaw I hit a few years ago. It was a
notebook where the CMOS battery was soldered onto the motherboard. A whole
batch of CMOS batteries were failing after about 18 months (so I learnt
later). New motherboard said the manufacturers, $1 cell and some careful
soldering said I - the notebook went on to run for years :-).
Paul DS.
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