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This seller crazy ? RP Jones 07-27-2004
Posted by RP Jones on July 27, 2004, 2:19 pm
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This guy in California's pimping an IBM Thinkpad 560X, No battery, no H.D,
boot errors

$25 shipping and handling for 2 POUNDS ?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31554&item=3494359726&rd=1
Are that many stupid buyers on Ebay ?

-RP




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Posted by Ian S on July 27, 2004, 7:55 am
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> This guy in California's pimping an IBM Thinkpad 560X, No battery, no H.D,
> boot errors
>
> $25 shipping and handling for 2 POUNDS ?
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31554&item=3494359726&rd=1
> Are that many stupid buyers on Ebay ?
>
> -RP

Actually, it says there is a 2.1 GB HD and I don't see mention of boot
errors. Also, padding the S/H costs on Ebay is just a way to lower listing
and selling fees. It's against Ebay rules but unless it's really egregious,
there's not much that can be done. The seller can always argue the costs of
handling: time, box, packing materials etc.




Posted by EM on July 28, 2004, 12:24 am
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Ian S wrote:
>
>>This guy in California's pimping an IBM Thinkpad 560X, No battery, no H.D,
>>boot errors
>>
>>$25 shipping and handling for 2 POUNDS ?
>>
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31554&item=3494359726&rd=1

Shipping weight isn't listed, as far as I can see. Two pounds seems
awfully light, even if it is stripped down. *Decent* packaging should
add at least a pound to the package weight.


>
>>Are that many stupid buyers on Ebay ?
>>
>>-RP
>
>
> Actually, it says there is a 2.1 GB HD and I don't see mention of boot
> errors. Also, padding the S/H costs on Ebay is just a way to lower listing
> and selling fees. It's against Ebay rules but unless it's really egregious,
> there's not much that can be done. The seller can always argue the costs of
> handling: time, box, packing materials etc.

I really doubt such a seller would "negotiate" S&H fees once the auction
is over. After all, placing a bid assumes you fully understand and agree
to *ALL* the seller's terms.

Still, I've dealt with S&H "gougers" in the past, and have taken it up
with a USPS rep near my area. For those sellers who charge outrageous
S&H fees (USPS), I was advised to notify the USPS branch near the
seller's area to file a report so they could investigate. But even then,
the seller could argue that the "excess" goes to "handling,"
"packaging," "processing," etc.

In the end it's like you said, there's not much that can be done...
except to browse for similar items from sellers who are FAR more
reasonable with their S&H policies.


>
>


Posted by Ian S on July 27, 2004, 7:03 pm
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> Ian S wrote:
> >
> >>This guy in California's pimping an IBM Thinkpad 560X, No battery, no
H.D,
> >>boot errors
> >>
> >>$25 shipping and handling for 2 POUNDS ?
> >>
> >
> >
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31554&item=3494359726&rd=1
>
> Shipping weight isn't listed, as far as I can see. Two pounds seems
> awfully light, even if it is stripped down. *Decent* packaging should
> add at least a pound to the package weight.
>
>
> >
> >>Are that many stupid buyers on Ebay ?
> >>
> >>-RP
> >
> >
> > Actually, it says there is a 2.1 GB HD and I don't see mention of boot
> > errors. Also, padding the S/H costs on Ebay is just a way to lower
listing
> > and selling fees. It's against Ebay rules but unless it's really
egregious,
> > there's not much that can be done. The seller can always argue the costs
of
> > handling: time, box, packing materials etc.
>
> I really doubt such a seller would "negotiate" S&H fees once the auction
> is over. After all, placing a bid assumes you fully understand and agree
> to *ALL* the seller's terms.

That's not what I meant. Postage is only one component of S/H and I meant to
convey that the seller with a high S/H charge can argue that it is due to
the cost of the box, padding and other shipping materials not to mention the
time to actually do it. I'm not arguing that the seller is right to do so
but if questioned he or she can make that argument. IMHO, $15-16 S/H for the
item is more reasonable - I suspect the package will tip the scales at just
over 4 lbs which USPS will treat as 5 lbs.
>
> Still, I've dealt with S&H "gougers" in the past, and have taken it up
> with a USPS rep near my area. For those sellers who charge outrageous
> S&H fees (USPS), I was advised to notify the USPS branch near the
> seller's area to file a report so they could investigate. But even then,
> the seller could argue that the "excess" goes to "handling,"
> "packaging," "processing," etc.
>
> In the end it's like you said, there's not much that can be done...
> except to browse for similar items from sellers who are FAR more
> reasonable with their S&H policies.

I think you'll find that most people take the S/H costs into consideration
when they bid so the seller may get more S/H but lose some on final auction
price.
>
>
> >
> >




Posted by Joe on July 28, 2004, 4:00 am
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> I suspect the package will tip the scales at just
> over 4 lbs which USPS will treat as 5 lbs.

I have a 560X Here, without a battery about 3.2 pounds, dimensions of 300
sheets printer paper.



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