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Thinkpads: IBM vs Lenovo Ted Kerin 05-23-2005
Posted by Ted Kerin on May 23, 2005, 11:15 am
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Does anyone know whether the laptops now sold by Lenovo (which is linked
from the IBM site) are really the same product -- at least for the
present -- as the laptops recently "made by" IBM?

I ask because when I bought an IBM G-series Thinkpad in Novermber 2004, it
was shipped from Shanghai. Which makes me suspect that IBM was already
outsourcing the manufacturing to Lenovo (or certainly to someone in China)
before the recent change in corporate arrangements.

My IBM laptop was stolen in a home burglary, so I'm wondering whether a
Lenovo laptop would be, in effect, the same product made by more-or-less the
same people in the same factory as the "IBM" product made 6 months ago.

Of course, the comparison will become less meaningful over time, as Lenovo
itself becomes directly responsibe for the design changes and quality
control. But, since I'm asking about a 6-month-old "IBM" -vs- a new
"Lenovo", I'm hoping they would be truly equivalent. Any inside tips?

Thanks...









Posted by MAG on May 23, 2005, 6:07 pm
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> Does anyone know whether the laptops now sold by Lenovo (which is linked
> from the IBM site) are really the same product -- at least for the
> present -- as the laptops recently "made by" IBM?
>
> I ask because when I bought an IBM G-series Thinkpad in Novermber 2004, it
> was shipped from Shanghai. Which makes me suspect that IBM was already
> outsourcing the manufacturing to Lenovo (or certainly to someone in China)
> before the recent change in corporate arrangements.
>
> My IBM laptop was stolen in a home burglary, so I'm wondering whether a
> Lenovo laptop would be, in effect, the same product made by more-or-less the
> same people in the same factory as the "IBM" product made 6 months ago.
>
> Of course, the comparison will become less meaningful over time, as Lenovo
> itself becomes directly responsibe for the design changes and quality
> control. But, since I'm asking about a 6-month-old "IBM" -vs- a new
> "Lenovo", I'm hoping they would be truly equivalent. Any inside tips?
>
> Thanks...

They have been made in China for some time now. Every recent T series
I've purchased has a Made In China sticker...


Posted by hashim.muntazar@gmail.com on May 24, 2005, 1:45 am
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MAG wrote:
> > Does anyone know whether the laptops now sold by Lenovo (which is
linked
> > from the IBM site) are really the same product -- at least for the
> > present -- as the laptops recently "made by" IBM?
> >
> > I ask because when I bought an IBM G-series Thinkpad in Novermber
2004, it
> > was shipped from Shanghai. Which makes me suspect that IBM was
already
> > outsourcing the manufacturing to Lenovo (or certainly to someone in
China)
> > before the recent change in corporate arrangements.
> >
> > My IBM laptop was stolen in a home burglary, so I'm wondering
whether a
> > Lenovo laptop would be, in effect, the same product made by
more-or-less the
> > same people in the same factory as the "IBM" product made 6 months
ago.
> >
> > Of course, the comparison will become less meaningful over time, as
Lenovo
> > itself becomes directly responsibe for the design changes and
quality
> > control. But, since I'm asking about a 6-month-old "IBM" -vs- a new
> > "Lenovo", I'm hoping they would be truly equivalent. Any inside
tips?
> >
> > Thanks...
>
> They have been made in China for some time now. Every recent T series

> I've purchased has a Made In China sticker...

Has anyone bought a Thinkpad since Lenovo has taken control and does it
feel any different?



Posted by * * Chas on May 27, 2005, 7:44 pm
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> Does anyone know whether the laptops now sold by Lenovo (which is
linked
> from the IBM site) are really the same product -- at least for the
> present -- as the laptops recently "made by" IBM?
>
> I ask because when I bought an IBM G-series Thinkpad in Novermber
2004, it
> was shipped from Shanghai. Which makes me suspect that IBM was
already
> outsourcing the manufacturing to Lenovo (or certainly to someone in
China)
> before the recent change in corporate arrangements.
>
> My IBM laptop was stolen in a home burglary, so I'm wondering
whether a
> Lenovo laptop would be, in effect, the same product made by
more-or-less the
> same people in the same factory as the "IBM" product made 6 months
ago.
>
> Of course, the comparison will become less meaningful over time, as
Lenovo
> itself becomes directly responsibe for the design changes and
quality
> control. But, since I'm asking about a 6-month-old "IBM" -vs- a new
> "Lenovo", I'm hoping they would be truly equivalent. Any inside
tips?
>
> Thanks...
>

I bought an IBM X31 last fall. It was made in China. It came with an
X-base adapter that takes 3 hands to attach and remove.

Judging from the poor design of the Xbase adapter, I suspect that it
was developed by Lenovo rather than IBM.

FWIW, I've owned 7 Thinkpads.

Chas.




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