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Thinkpad T30 advise please tmfast 12-09-2004
Posted by tmfast on December 9, 2004, 11:47 pm
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Hey all,
Great NG. Learning alot here.
I am have benn very happy with my T20 for a couple of years, but would like
to get something newer. I am still leaning to IBM even with the new press
about them selling "thinkpad" line maybe. I have had very good luck wth
them.
Any way. I am considering a T30 with the 400mhz bus, faster RAM, and P4m.
But not sure if its as reliable as the T23 P3m. I NEED an onboard serail
port as USB and PCMCIA cards dont work well with the utilities I use for
work connecting to equipment. I here the P3m is very stable, but can find
enough information to convince me the P4m is a great improvement.
Are there any IBM guru's out there who can guide me?




Posted by Bruce Markowitz on December 9, 2004, 9:04 pm
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Buy it, the T30 is exellent. You can upgrade the CPU to 2.6 gig, add one gig
RAM, high speed HDD, 14" screen, what could be better?
> Hey all,
> Great NG. Learning alot here.
> I am have benn very happy with my T20 for a couple of years, but would
like
> to get something newer. I am still leaning to IBM even with the new press
> about them selling "thinkpad" line maybe. I have had very good luck wth
> them.
> Any way. I am considering a T30 with the 400mhz bus, faster RAM, and P4m.
> But not sure if its as reliable as the T23 P3m. I NEED an onboard serail
> port as USB and PCMCIA cards dont work well with the utilities I use for
> work connecting to equipment. I here the P3m is very stable, but can find
> enough information to convince me the P4m is a great improvement.
> Are there any IBM guru's out there who can guide me?
>
>




Posted by Martin Slaney on December 10, 2004, 3:27 am
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Bruce Markowitz wrote:
> Buy it, the T30 is exellent. You can upgrade the CPU to 2.6 gig, add one gig
> RAM, high speed HDD, 14" screen, what could be better?

Don't go choosing a (earlyish) P4m-based machine just for clock-tick
reasons though .... a 1.6GHz or so P4m will be hardly (if at all) faster
than a 1.2GHz (or so) P3m. Go for it for other reasons, enhancements
etc. , but not for CPU .... ISTR the T23 can support 1GB RAM also.
Fitting a faster CPU could be very tricky/risky unless you know
_exactly_ what you're doing .... liable to get overheating problems etc.


>>I am have benn very happy with my T20 for a couple of years, but would
>
> like
>
>>to get something newer. I am still leaning to IBM even with the new press
>>about them selling "thinkpad" line maybe. I have had very good luck wth
>>them.
>> Any way. I am considering a T30 with the 400mhz bus, faster RAM, and P4m.
>>But not sure if its as reliable as the T23 P3m. I NEED an onboard serail
>>port as USB and PCMCIA cards dont work well with the utilities I use for
>>work connecting to equipment. I here the P3m is very stable, but can find
>>enough information to convince me the P4m is a great improvement.
>> Are there any IBM guru's out there who can guide me?
>>
>>
>
>
>


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Posted by nham on December 10, 2004, 1:01 am
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I had a T21, and my roommate has a T30. Go for the T23. It gets better
battery life, similar performance, and puts out less heat than the T30.
It's also 0.2" thinner (trust me--you'll notice that the T30 is thicker
coming from the T20). Just make sure you have a fresh battery.
Remember, the PIII-M (Tualatin) is the direct predecessor of the
current Banias/Dothan Pentium M (obviously there's a lot of new stuff
on the P-M vs. the PIII-M, but the Intel Israel guys started with the
PIII-M design and added to it to to get to the P-M). It's not a bad
processor at all for mobile applications and the 1.2 ghz PIII-M
probably has similar performance to the 1.6-1.8 ghz PIV.

> Any way. I am considering a T30 with the 400mhz bus, faster RAM, and
P4m.
> But not sure if its as reliable as the T23 P3m. I NEED an onboard
serail
> port as USB and PCMCIA cards dont work well with the utilities I use
for
> work connecting to equipment. I here the P3m is very stable, but can
find
> enough information to convince me the P4m is a great improvement.
> Are there any IBM guru's out there who can guide me?

Another option is the Compaq Evo n600c. Traded in my sxga+ t21 for a
refurbished sxga+ n600c (1.2 ghz pIII-m) two years ago and it's worked
like a champ. The speakers aren't very good even compared to the crappy
ones on the T, but otherwise it's directly comparable to the T series
(it's actually even a bit lighter/smaller/cheaper). Both the T series
and the Evo are very solidly built from my experience.



Posted by Dan on December 10, 2004, 4:42 am
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Mobile P3 are about 30% faster than a mobile pentium 4. Therefore a 1Ghz
P3-M usually ends up outperforming a 1.3Ghz P4-M. My mom uses an evo n600
for work. It is very well built and a good all around machine.
>I had a T21, and my roommate has a T30. Go for the T23. It gets better
> battery life, similar performance, and puts out less heat than the T30.
> It's also 0.2" thinner (trust me--you'll notice that the T30 is thicker
> coming from the T20). Just make sure you have a fresh battery.
> Remember, the PIII-M (Tualatin) is the direct predecessor of the
> current Banias/Dothan Pentium M (obviously there's a lot of new stuff
> on the P-M vs. the PIII-M, but the Intel Israel guys started with the
> PIII-M design and added to it to to get to the P-M). It's not a bad
> processor at all for mobile applications and the 1.2 ghz PIII-M
> probably has similar performance to the 1.6-1.8 ghz PIV.
>
>> Any way. I am considering a T30 with the 400mhz bus, faster RAM, and
> P4m.
>> But not sure if its as reliable as the T23 P3m. I NEED an onboard
> serail
>> port as USB and PCMCIA cards dont work well with the utilities I use
> for
>> work connecting to equipment. I here the P3m is very stable, but can
> find
>> enough information to convince me the P4m is a great improvement.
>> Are there any IBM guru's out there who can guide me?
>
> Another option is the Compaq Evo n600c. Traded in my sxga+ t21 for a
> refurbished sxga+ n600c (1.2 ghz pIII-m) two years ago and it's worked
> like a champ. The speakers aren't very good even compared to the crappy
> ones on the T, but otherwise it's directly comparable to the T series
> (it's actually even a bit lighter/smaller/cheaper). Both the T series
> and the Evo are very solidly built from my experience.
>




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