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Sync from Q to outlook yanks6rule 04-18-2007
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Posted by Helio Diamant - MS-MVP/Mobile on April 19, 2007, 3:09 am
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 The best thing would be to sync and PUSH MAIL with the exchange server, and
then you would not be depending on Outlook and on your computer for that.

The problem appears at the moment you use POP3. By definition, POP3 is a
protocol in which a client pulls the mail from the server and deletes it. At
the moment you have two clients doing that, one will see only what the other
hasn't deleted. For preventing Outlook from loosing information, the
PocketPC doesn't delete the messages automatically. But then if you choose
not to delete the messages in Outlook as well, your POP3 mailbox will grow
in size in such pace that soon you won't be able to either access it or
receive mail.

Maybe you should try to use IMAP instead of POP3 both in Outlook and in the
phone. Usually POP3 mailboxes support that. The question is if your provider
will give you a mailbox of a size that will support that growth.

Helio

> So with emoze you have to maintain a constant PC connection and my
> laptop is not always on the internet so that would not work for me. I
> could do the same with wireless sync but have it push to outlook and
> then to my phone. What I don't understand is why my phone can't push
> the mail it has to my PC. Everything works except for that if I
> recieve a message on my phone it will never appear on my desktop.
>
> If I am understanding what you say I can have my phone be secondary
> and leave the messages on the server and then when I get back to town
> outlook will then download everything because it is still on the
> server but then everything I did on my phone won't match what is on my
> desktop and there are times I am gone for multiple days. Maybe I am
> not understanding how this works, but it seems that I should be able
> to get the messages on my phone and then sync the two so they match if
> the phone has something the desktop does not it will go over to the
> desktop and vice versa.
>
> Bob
>



Posted by yanks6rule on April 18, 2007, 10:10 am
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 On Apr 18, 9:25 am, "Helio Diamant - MS-MVP/Mobile Devices"
> Bob,
>
> I can only say for me, but I couldn't figure out what is your setup and what
> is your problem.
>
> 1. Is your server Exchange 2003, or something else?
> 2. Are you sync'ing with your server, or sending mail via POP3?
> 3. In case your server is Exchange and you are using POP3, why not to sync
> directly with the server and forget the syncing with outlook?
>
> Helio
>
>
>
> > So I have wireless sync setup on my Q to get mail when I am not in my
> > office. When I am in my office outlook does the trick. I tried doing
> > this with leaving messages on the server and using the username
> > recent:username and both times I got double e-mails. I now just
> > archive messages and whichever gets it first (outlook or Q) wins.
> > Since I only have outlook running when I am at my desk my Q wins when
> > I am away. The problem I am having is that mail gotten by my Q will
> > not sync back to my outlook and I don't know if this is because I
> > don't have the settings for my account on the Q but my mail shows up
> > in my outlook folder with wireless sync. Let me know if anyone can
> > help.
>
> > Thanks
> > Bob

I thought I had sent this once but it never showed up. I am trying to
access GMail. I use the POP feature. On my desktop I have outlook
pulling mail from pop.gmail.com. On my Q I have the same thing setup
but through wireless sync not through outlook. I hope this helps I
will provide any more information that is needed.


Posted by Darhl Thomason on April 18, 2007, 4:35 pm
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>
> I thought I had sent this once but it never showed up. I am trying to
> access GMail. I use the POP feature. On my desktop I have outlook
> pulling mail from pop.gmail.com. On my Q I have the same thing setup
> but through wireless sync not through outlook. I hope this helps I
> will provide any more information that is needed.
>
I'm not super familiar with GMail, but if it has an IMAP option, that would
work better. I use IMAP on my phone and on my desktop. Using IMAP
synchronizes your mailbox with the server, this way both will always stay in
sync.

d



Posted by Todd Allcock on April 18, 2007, 6:55 pm
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At 18 Apr 2007 13:35:13 -0700 Darhl Thomason wrote:

> I'm not super familiar with GMail, but if it has an IMAP option, that
> would work better. I use IMAP on my phone and on my desktop.

Sadly, GMail uses POP3. Interestingly enough, AOL, once considered the
scourge of the internet partly due to their proprietary e-mail protocols,
now offers free IMAP accounts, and allows (authenticated) SMTP from any
ISP connection, making it ideal for mobile device use (unlike the SMTP
servers of many broadband ISPs that reject e-
mail originating "off-network.")

> Using IMAP
> synchronizes your mailbox with the server, this way both will always
> stay in sync.


Absolutely- IMAP is ideal for those of us accessing the same e-mail
account from multiple devices.


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