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Standard character attributes for Hebrew? Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz 03-12-2006
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Posted by Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz on March 12, 2006, 2:22 pm
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I'd like to include some Hebrew names in a web page. HTML 4 doesn't
appear to include character attributes for ISO-8859-8. I'd prefer
avoiding numeric references, e.g.,
"שמואל". Is there currently a
standardized set of character attributes for Hebrew? If so, is there a
downloadable set of definitions for those attributes?

Thanks.

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Posted by Alan J. Flavell on March 12, 2006, 3:18 pm
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On Sun, 12 Mar 2006, Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz wrote:

> I'd like to include some Hebrew names in a web page. HTML 4 doesn't
> appear to include character attributes for ISO-8859-8.

I'm sorry to say you seem to be extensively confuddled about character
representation in HTML. Really, the character *encoding* of
iso-8859-8 has nothing to do with this, unless you are providing
characters which are actually encoded in 8859-8.

In general you have three ways to represent characters in HTML:

1. the character itself, in the character encoding which you are using

2. numeric character reference (&#number;), in either decimal or hex,

3. if available (but in this case they are not available), named
character entities.

I don't know what you think you mean by "character attributes".

> I'd prefer avoiding numeric references, e.g.,
> "&#x05E9;&#x05DE;&#x05D5;&#x05D0;&#x05DC;".

Choose one of the above options. There aren't any other.

good luck

Posted by Jukka K. Korpela on March 12, 2006, 3:26 pm
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> I don't know what you think you mean by "character attributes".

My guess is "character references", the W3C-endorsed misnomer for entities
with definitions that expand an entity reference to a character reference.
Things like &alpha;. They do not exist for Hebrew characters in HTML or in
SGML. (&alefsym; is not an exception: it denotes U+8501, which is a
letterlike symbol, not a letter.)

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Posted by Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz on March 14, 2006, 11:48 am
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>They do not exist for Hebrew characters in HTML or in
>SGML.

What about in XML and in XHTML?

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Posted by Jukka K. Korpela on March 14, 2006, 4:59 pm
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>>They do not exist for Hebrew characters in HTML or in
>>SGML.
>
> What about in XML and in XHTML?

Even less. XML is a strongly simplified version of SGML, and XHTML is an
XMLized variant of HTML. In fact, an XHTML processor is not even required to
process external entity declarations, which means that it need not even
interpret "predefined" entity references like &alpha;.

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