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Spybot say REGFIX.EXE is a threat - why? Terry Pinnell 04-05-2008
Posted by jen on April 27, 2008, 4:40 pm
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>> says...
>>> Microsoft's servers don't seem to carry any non-microsoft groups,
>>> but they
>>> do use the NNTP protocol for usenet.
>> If she checks she will find that many ISP/Business and even personal
>> servers carry the MS groups, once MS makes them public any Usenet
>> server
>> can subscribe to them.
> ...or archive them.
> In a sense, NNTP goes beyond USENET and can be used
> outside of usenet at large. Jen posting from there makes the
> statement true for her except for the fact that her posts are
> broadcast and propagated to usenet at large.
> So *this* is usenet, but what she experiences is microsoft's
> microcosm of newsgroups because of the limits imposed by
> microsoft by only carrying their groups.

I'm simply using MS's newsserver ATM for their groups. My own
newsserver carries *all* the hierarchies... To be on MS's server for
their groups is more desirable to me.

-jen(not a name)



Posted by Leythos on April 27, 2008, 5:54 pm
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 says...
>
> > says...
> >> Microsoft's servers don't seem to carry any non-microsoft groups, but
> >> they
> >> do use the NNTP protocol for usenet.
> >
> > If she checks she will find that many ISP/Business and even personal
> > servers carry the MS groups, once MS makes them public any Usenet server
> > can subscribe to them.
>
> ...or archive them.
>
> In a sense, NNTP goes beyond USENET and can be used
> outside of usenet at large. Jen posting from there makes the
> statement true for her except for the fact that her posts are
> broadcast and propagated to usenet at large.
>
> So *this* is usenet, but what she experiences is microsoft's
> microcosm of newsgroups because of the limits imposed by
> microsoft by only carrying their groups.

I agree, with this change - MS is doing their part on Usenet service in
the facilities, they ARE using Usenet and have also provided a web
interface for it.

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Posted by jen on April 27, 2008, 7:40 pm
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> says...
>> > Erratic@ne.rr.com
>> > says...
>> >> Microsoft's servers don't seem to carry any non-microsoft groups,
>> >> but
>> >> they
>> >> do use the NNTP protocol for usenet.
>> > If she checks she will find that many ISP/Business and even
>> > personal
>> > servers carry the MS groups, once MS makes them public any Usenet
>> > server
>> > can subscribe to them.
>> ...or archive them.
>> In a sense, NNTP goes beyond USENET and can be used
>> outside of usenet at large. Jen posting from there makes the
>> statement true for her except for the fact that her posts are
>> broadcast and propagated to usenet at large.
>> So *this* is usenet, but what she experiences is microsoft's
>> microcosm of newsgroups because of the limits imposed by
>> microsoft by only carrying their groups.
> I agree, with this change - MS is doing their part on Usenet service
> in
> the facilities, they ARE using Usenet and have also provided a web
> interface for it.

The NNTP *protocal* That MS newsserver uses IS NOT USENET, period. I
see you *still* don't get it... Oh well...

-jen



Posted by jen on April 27, 2008, 4:25 pm
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*(Snipped attribution restored)*
says...
> > I'm afraid you're the one who needs to learn what Usenet is and is
> > not ;)
> > If MS didn't want Google to archive their groups articles, then
> > Google
> > would have to stop, as has happened with quite a few
> > servers(including
> > mine). All you have to do is look at the headers to see where an
> > article
> > is being posted from, if you know how, that is ;) Microsoft does
> > *not*
> > peer with any other newsservers, and is *not* a part of Usenet,
> > peroid.
> > Do your homework...
> > > Microsoft's servers don't seem to carry any non-microsoft groups,
> > > but they
> > > do use the NNTP protocol for usenet.
> If she checks she will find that many ISP/Business and even personal
> servers carry the MS groups, once MS makes them public any Usenet
> server
> can subscribe to them.

What makes you think I'm a "she"? My nym is *not* a name... You seem
to be very presumptive ;) From the "horses mouth":
What are the Microsoft newsgroups?
"For a number of years, Microsoft has created the Microsoft.public
newsgroup hierarchy and made it *available to anyone ON the Usenet*(my
emphasis)".
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;%5Bln%5D;newswhelp
Also see here:
[FAQ] How to add the microsoft.* hierarchy to a news server:
Last-modified: 2007/08/02
Microsoft created Microsoft public discussions covering many Microsoft
products, technologies, and topics because of the value of finding out
what your peers think and getting information from people who use the
same products and technologies you use.
The Microsoft public discussions have been available to anyone on
Usenet for a number of years.
http://www.trigofacile.com/divers/usenet/clefs/microsoft-faq.txt

Microsoft *is not* a part of Usenet. They simply make their *.public*
groups "available to anyone ON the Usenet". Get it yet? I'm not going
to waste any more of my time educating you. As I said before, do your
homework!

-jen



Posted by Leythos on April 27, 2008, 5:57 pm
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says...
> Microsoft *is not* a part of Usenet. They simply make their *.public*

Again, you're missing the point - they have a Usenet service, it's the
root of their "Groups" that you are using - it IS the infrastructure,
the foundation, the technology that they use to build from.

Yes, they make select parts available to other feeds, and they have a
private Usenet server also - you have to authenticate with it to access
it, but that is part of Usenet methods and it is Usenet.

Don't mistake Usenet for the part that is public, and not every Usenet
provider carries the same groups, some only carry a fraction, some limit
you monthly byte count, etc....

Again, MS is using a News Server that is based on what we all use as
Usenet, and they provide the masses that don't know about Usenet with a
web interface to it also.

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