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Setting up Media Center Bill Anderson 09-17-2008
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Posted by Bill Anderson on September 17, 2008, 6:26 pm
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I betcha this question has been asked before, but after a bit of
Googling I couldn't find an answer. So here goes:

I've had Vista Ultimate for about a year and I've figured out two
different ways to set up Media Center. I wish I could combine the two ways.

I have an ATI Radeon video card -- HD2600, and an ATI video capture card
-- TV Wonder HD650. I can set up Media Center to use the TV Wonder
HD650 and it works fine -- it'll display all the cable broadcast
channels (analog and digital) up to 99, and then it switches to OTA for
the HD channels in my area. When I record programming it comes from the
HD650 tuner.

Or I can set up Media Center to use my set top box as its source of
video. In this case I must use my Microsoft remote control unit which
employs a wire and a sensor that sticks to the front of my set top box
by the infra-red detector. This way I can point the remote in the
direction of the computer and the computer sends a signal to the set top
box to change channel or whatever. This way, when I record programming,
a composite signal comes from the set top box tuner, not the HD650 tuner.

The problem is that I don't like using the Microsoft remote. The
response time is slow and the Microsoft remote doesn't have enough
buttons to make the set top box (a DVR) do everything it's capable of
doing. So I have disconnected the Microsoft wire and pulled the sensor
off the front of my set top box and I don't use the Microsoft remote. I
just use the ATI tuner directly.

But...sometimes I want to record something on my hard drive that's
already been recorded by the DVR. Now I'm out of luck, because Media
Center doesn't see programming that comes from the set top box -- it
sees only programming that comes from the ATI card due to the way I've
set up Media Center.

The ATI software that came with the video capture card accommodates my
needs nicely in XP -- I can switch between set top box input or video
capture card tuner input or even S-Video input. But the ATI software
won't install in Vista. I'm stuck with just Media Center software in Vista.

So now my question: Is there a way to switch between inputs using Media
Center as there is with the ATI software? Can I tell Media Center that
I want to use the set top box as a source without having to completely
re-install the remote control unit? Can I just point Media Center away
from the ATI tuner to external set top box input (S-Video or composite)
without doing a total re-install of the remote control hardware?

Thanks in advance.

--
Bill Anderson

I am the Mighty Favog

Posted by Curious on September 17, 2008, 7:57 pm
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You should be getting the Vista tuner application software for your card
from the ATI Website since the XP software that came with the card will not
run on Vista as you have found.
>I betcha this question has been asked before, but after a bit of Googling I
>couldn't find an answer. So here goes:
>
> I've had Vista Ultimate for about a year and I've figured out two
> different ways to set up Media Center. I wish I could combine the two
> ways.
>
> I have an ATI Radeon video card -- HD2600, and an ATI video capture
> card -- TV Wonder HD650. I can set up Media Center to use the TV Wonder
> HD650 and it works fine -- it'll display all the cable broadcast channels
> (analog and digital) up to 99, and then it switches to OTA for the HD
> channels in my area. When I record programming it comes from the HD650
> tuner.
>
> Or I can set up Media Center to use my set top box as its source of video.
> In this case I must use my Microsoft remote control unit which employs a
> wire and a sensor that sticks to the front of my set top box by the
> infra-red detector. This way I can point the remote in the direction of
> the computer and the computer sends a signal to the set top box to change
> channel or whatever. This way, when I record programming, a composite
> signal comes from the set top box tuner, not the HD650 tuner.
>
> The problem is that I don't like using the Microsoft remote. The response
> time is slow and the Microsoft remote doesn't have enough buttons to make
> the set top box (a DVR) do everything it's capable of doing. So I have
> disconnected the Microsoft wire and pulled the sensor off the front of my
> set top box and I don't use the Microsoft remote. I just use the ATI
> tuner directly.
>
> But...sometimes I want to record something on my hard drive that's already
> been recorded by the DVR. Now I'm out of luck, because Media Center
> doesn't see programming that comes from the set top box -- it sees only
> programming that comes from the ATI card due to the way I've set up Media
> Center.
>
> The ATI software that came with the video capture card accommodates my
> needs nicely in XP -- I can switch between set top box input or video
> capture card tuner input or even S-Video input. But the ATI software
> won't install in Vista. I'm stuck with just Media Center software in
> Vista.
>
> So now my question: Is there a way to switch between inputs using Media
> Center as there is with the ATI software? Can I tell Media Center that I
> want to use the set top box as a source without having to completely
> re-install the remote control unit? Can I just point Media Center away
> from the ATI tuner to external set top box input (S-Video or composite)
> without doing a total re-install of the remote control hardware?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> --
> Bill Anderson
>
> I am the Mighty Favog


Posted by Bill Anderson on September 17, 2008, 8:56 pm
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Curious < wrote:
> You should be getting the Vista tuner application software for your card
> from the ATI Website since the XP software that came with the card will
> not run on Vista as you have found.

ATI's tuner application software is called MultiMedia Center (MMC). It
won't run on Vista. MMC isn't even offered among the Vista driver
downloads on the ATI site. It is offered among the XP driver downloads.

So does anyone know whether Microsoft Media Center can be made to switch
between inputs?

--
Bill Anderson

I am the Mighty Favog

Posted by Gary Tsang on September 17, 2008, 11:03 pm
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Run it through TV Signal setup (though you'll screw up your Channel Guides
and all associated recordings).

Media Center wasn't really designed for switching of inputs as you have
discovered.


--
Gary Tsang
http://www.gtsang.com

Microsoft MVP - Windows Media Center
http://www.microsoft.com/mvp


> Curious < wrote:
>> You should be getting the Vista tuner application software for your card
>> from the ATI Website since the XP software that came with the card will
>> not run on Vista as you have found.
>
> ATI's tuner application software is called MultiMedia Center (MMC). It
> won't run on Vista. MMC isn't even offered among the Vista driver
> downloads on the ATI site. It is offered among the XP driver downloads.
>
> So does anyone know whether Microsoft Media Center can be made to switch
> between inputs?
>
> --
> Bill Anderson
>
> I am the Mighty Favog



Posted by Bill Anderson on September 18, 2008, 11:23 am
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> Run it through TV Signal setup (though you'll screw up your Channel Guides
> and all associated recordings).
>
> Media Center wasn't really designed for switching of inputs as you have
> discovered.
>

Well, there's the answer to my question. Thanks, Gary, even though
that's not what I was hoping you'd say. I'm glad I have a multi-boot
system so I can use XP when Vista lets me down. Doesn't happen very
often anymore -- after about a year of tinkering I have Vista running
nicely and it's become my default OS. But still I occasionally run
into jobs like this one that my Vista installation can't handle. Not
because there's something wrong with Vista but because vendors have
chosen not to support it. I place the blame for this one primarily on
ATI/AMD and secondarily on Microsoft. I mean, why isn't Media Center
designed to switch inputs? If MMC can do it, why not Media Center?
Oh well. Thanks.

--
Bill Anderson

I am the Mighty Favog


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