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Posted by baalke on June 28, 2007, 12:28 pm
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Scientists find that Earth and Mars are different to the core
Science and Technology Facilities Council
June 28, 2007

Research comparing silicon samples from Earth, meteorites and
planetary
materials, published in Nature (28th June 2007), provides new evidence
that the Earth's core formed under very different conditions from
those
that existed on Mars. It also shows that the Earth and the Moon have
the
same silicon isotopic composition supporting the theory that atoms
from
the two mixed in the early stages of their development.

This latest research which was carried out by scientists from Oxford
University along with colleagues from University of California, Los
Angeles (UCLA) and the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich
(ETH) compared silicon isotopes from rocks on Earth with samples from
meteorites and other solar system materials. This is the first time
that
isotopes have been used in this way and it has opened up a new line of
scientific investigation into how the Earth's core formed.

On Earth rocks that make up volcanoes and mountain ranges and underlie
the ocean floor are made of silicate - compounds made of silicon and
oxygen linked with other kinds of atoms. Silicate dominates down to a
depth of 2,900 km - roughly half way to the centre of the Earth. At
this
point there is an abrupt boundary with the dense metallic iron core.
Studies by Birch in the 1950's demonstrated that the outer core had a
density too low to be made of pure iron and that it must also be made
up
of some lighter elements (see notes to editors for further details).

Research team member, Bastian Georg, a post doctoral researcher from
Oxford University's Earth Sciences Department said, "We dissolved
meteorites, provided by the Natural History Museum in London, in order
to compare their isotopic composition with those of rocks from the
Earth. The silicon was separated from other elements and the atomic
proportions of isotopes measured using a particularly sophisticated
mass
spectrometer at the ETH in Zurich".

Professor Alex Halliday, also from Oxford University explains, "We
were
quite startled at our results which showed that the heavier isotopes
from silicate Earth samples contained increased proportions of the
heavier isotopes of silicon. This is quite different from meteorites
from the silicate portions of Mars and the large Asteroid Vesta -
which
do not display such an effect even though these bodies also have an
iron
core."

Silicate samples from Mars and Vesta are identical to a primitive
class
of meteorites called chondrites that represent average solar system
material from small "planetesimals" that never underwent core
formation.

Professor Halliday continues, "The most likely explanation is that,
unlike Mars and Vesta, the Earth's silicon has been divided into two
sorts - a portion that became a light element in the Earth's core
dissolved in metal and the greater proportion which formed the
silicon-oxygen bonded silicate of the Earth's mantle and crust."
At depths the silicates change structure to denser forms so the
isotopic
make-up would depend on the pressure at which metal and silicate
separate. Quantifying this effect is the subject of ongoing studies.
Co-author on the paper Edwin Schauble from UCLA, has produced
preliminary calculations that show that the isotopic effects found are
of the right direction and magnitude.

This research provides new evidence that the Earth's core formed under
different conditions from those that existed on Mars. This could be
explained in part by the difference in mass between the two planets.
With Earth being eight times larger than Mars the pressure of core
formation could be higher and different silicate phases may have been
involved. The mass of a planet also affects the energy that is
released
as it accretes (or grows).

The Earth accreted most of its mass by violent collisions with other
planets and planetary embryos. The bigger the planet, the greater the
gravitational attraction and the higher the temperatures that are
generated as the kinetic energy of impacting objects is converted to
heat. Some have proposed that the outer Earth would have periodically
become a "magma ocean" of molten rock as a result of such extreme high
temperature events.

There is evidence that Mars stopped growing in the first few million
years of the solar system and did not experience the protracted
history
of violent collisions that affected the Earth. There already exists
compelling evidence for relatively strong magnetic fields early in
martian history but a thorough understanding of the martian core must
await geophysical measurements by future landers. It is however
thought
that the core of Mars is proportionally smaller than that of the Earth
and it probably formed under lower pressures and temperatures.

The research also shows that the Moon has the same silicon isotopic
composition as the Earth. This cannot be caused by high pressure core
formation on the Moon which is only about one percent of the mass of
the
Earth. However, it is consistent with the recent proposal that the
material that made the Moon during the giant impact between the
proto-Earth and another planet, usually called "Theia", was
sufficiently
energetic that the atoms of the disk from which the Moon formed mixed
with those from the silicate Earth. This means the silicon in the
silicate Earth must have already had a heavy isotopic composition
before
the Moon formed about 40 million years after the start of the solar
system.

The research was supported from grants provided by the UK's Science
and
Technology Facilities Council, and the USA's and Switzerland's
National
Science Foundation.

Contacts
Gill Ormrod - Science and Technology Facilities Council Press Office
Tel: 01793 442012. Email: gill.ormrod@stfc.ac.uk

Pete Wilton - Oxford University Press Office
Tel: 01865 283877
Email : pete.wilton@admin.ox.ac.uk

UK Science contact
Professor Alex Halliday - Department of Earth Science, Oxford
University
Tel: 07769728153
Email: alexh@earth.ox.ac.uk

Notes to Editors
The information in this release in based on the following Nature
paper,
which appears in 28th June issue.

Silicon in the Earth's core
R Bastian Georg 1,2, Alex N. Halliday 1, Edwin A Schauble 3 and Ben C
Reynolds 2.
1. Department of Earth Sciences, University of Oxford 2. Department of
Earth Sciences, ETH Zentrum, Zurich 3. Department of Earth and Space
Science, University of California, Los Angeles.

In 1952 the distinguished Harvard geophysicist Francis Birch showed
that
the Earth's liquid outer core, where the magnetic field is generated,
is
chemically different from the solid metallic iron inner core that
occupies the very centre of the Earth. Birch argued that the outer
core
had a density that was too low to be made of pure iron; it had to
contain several percent of a lighter element or elements of lower
atomic
weight. Since then scientists have sought to determine what these
light
elements are and what their concentrations tell us about the
conditions
of core formation.

The Science and Technology Facilities Council ensures the UK retains
its
leading place on the world stage by delivering world-class science;
accessing and hosting international facilities; developing innovative
technologies; and increasing the socio-economic impact of its research
through effective knowledge-exchange partnerships.

The Council has a broad science portfolio including Astronomy,
Particle
Physics, Particle Astrophysics, Nuclear Physics, Space Science,
Synchrotron Radiation, Neutron Sources and High Power Lasers. In
addition the Council manages and operates three internationally
renowned
laboratories:
* The Rutherford Appleton Laboratory, Oxfordshire
* The Daresbury Laboratory, Cheshire
* The UK Astronomy Technology Centre, Edinburgh
The Council gives researchers access to world-class facilities and
funds
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Laboratory for Particle Physics (CERN), the Institute Laue Langevin
(ILL), European Synchrotron Radiation Facility (ESRF), the European
organisation for Astronomical Research in the Southern Hemisphere
(ESO)
and the European Space Agency (ESA). It also contributes money for the
UK telescopes overseas on La Palma, Hawaii, Australia and in Chile,
and
the MERLIN/VLBI National Facility, which includes the Lovell Telescope
at Jodrell Bank Observatory.


Posted by SBC Yahoo on June 28, 2007, 1:21 pm
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> **Contact data appear below**
>
> Scientists find that Earth and Mars are different to the core
> Science and Technology Facilities Council
> June 28, 2007
>
> Research comparing silicon samples from Earth, meteorites and
> planetary
> materials, published in Nature (28th June 2007), provides new evidence
> that the Earth's core formed under very different conditions from
> those
> that existed on Mars. It also shows that the Earth and the Moon have
> the
> same silicon isotopic composition supporting the theory that atoms
> from
> the two mixed in the early stages of their development.
>
> This latest research which was carried out by scientists from Oxford
> University along with colleagues from University of California, Los
> Angeles (UCLA) and the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich
> (ETH) compared silicon isotopes from rocks on Earth with samples from
> meteorites and other solar system materials. This is the first time
> that
> isotopes have been used in this way and it has opened up a new line of
> scientific investigation into how the Earth's core formed.
>
> On Earth rocks that make up volcanoes and mountain ranges and underlie
> the ocean floor are made of silicate - compounds made of silicon and
> oxygen linked with other kinds of atoms. Silicate dominates down to a
> depth of 2,900 km - roughly half way to the centre of the Earth. At
> this
> point there is an abrupt boundary with the dense metallic iron core.
> Studies by Birch in the 1950's demonstrated that the outer core had a
> density too low to be made of pure iron and that it must also be made
> up
> of some lighter elements (see notes to editors for further details).
>
> Research team member, Bastian Georg, a post doctoral researcher from
> Oxford University's Earth Sciences Department said, "We dissolved
> meteorites, provided by the Natural History Museum in London, in order
> to compare their isotopic composition with those of rocks from the
> Earth. The silicon was separated from other elements and the atomic
> proportions of isotopes measured using a particularly sophisticated
> mass
> spectrometer at the ETH in Zurich".
>
> Professor Alex Halliday, also from Oxford University explains, "We
> were
> quite startled at our results which showed that the heavier isotopes
> from silicate Earth samples contained increased proportions of the
> heavier isotopes of silicon. This is quite different from meteorites
> from the silicate portions of Mars and the large Asteroid Vesta -
> which
> do not display such an effect even though these bodies also have an
> iron
> core."
>
> Silicate samples from Mars and Vesta are identical to a primitive
> class
> of meteorites called chondrites that represent average solar system
> material from small "planetesimals" that never underwent core
> formation.
>
> Professor Halliday continues, "The most likely explanation is that,
> unlike Mars and Vesta, the Earth's silicon has been divided into two
> sorts - a portion that became a light element in the Earth's core
> dissolved in metal and the greater proportion which formed the
> silicon-oxygen bonded silicate of the Earth's mantle and crust."
> At depths the silicates change structure to denser forms so the
> isotopic
> make-up would depend on the pressure at which metal and silicate
> separate. Quantifying this effect is the subject of ongoing studies.
> Co-author on the paper Edwin Schauble from UCLA, has produced
> preliminary calculations that show that the isotopic effects found are
> of the right direction and magnitude.
>
> This research provides new evidence that the Earth's core formed under
> different conditions from those that existed on Mars. This could be
> explained in part by the difference in mass between the two planets.
> With Earth being eight times larger than Mars the pressure of core
> formation could be higher and different silicate phases may have been
> involved. The mass of a planet also affects the energy that is
> released
> as it accretes (or grows).
>
> The Earth accreted most of its mass by violent collisions with other
> planets and planetary embryos. The bigger the planet, the greater the
> gravitational attraction and the higher the temperatures that are
> generated as the kinetic energy of impacting objects is converted to
> heat. Some have proposed that the outer Earth would have periodically
> become a "magma ocean" of molten rock as a result of such extreme high
> temperature events.
>
> There is evidence that Mars stopped growing in the first few million
> years of the solar system and did not experience the protracted
> history
> of violent collisions that affected the Earth. There already exists
> compelling evidence for relatively strong magnetic fields early in
> martian history but a thorough understanding of the martian core must
> await geophysical measurements by future landers. It is however
> thought
> that the core of Mars is proportionally smaller than that of the Earth
> and it probably formed under lower pressures and temperatures.
>
> The research also shows that the Moon has the same silicon isotopic
> composition as the Earth. This cannot be caused by high pressure core
> formation on the Moon which is only about one percent of the mass of
> the
> Earth. However, it is consistent with the recent proposal that the
> material that made the Moon during the giant impact between the
> proto-Earth and another planet, usually called "Theia", was
> sufficiently
> energetic that the atoms of the disk from which the Moon formed mixed
> with those from the silicate Earth. This means the silicon in the
> silicate Earth must have already had a heavy isotopic composition
> before
> the Moon formed about 40 million years after the start of the solar
> system.
>
> The research was supported from grants provided by the UK's Science
> and
> Technology Facilities Council, and the USA's and Switzerland's
> National
> Science Foundation.
>
> Contacts
> Gill Ormrod - Science and Technology Facilities Council Press Office
> Tel: 01793 442012. Email: gill.ormrod@stfc.ac.uk
>
> Pete Wilton - Oxford University Press Office
> Tel: 01865 283877
> Email : pete.wilton@admin.ox.ac.uk
>
> UK Science contact
> Professor Alex Halliday - Department of Earth Science, Oxford
> University
> Tel: 07769728153
> Email: alexh@earth.ox.ac.uk
>
> Notes to Editors
> The information in this release in based on the following Nature
> paper,
> which appears in 28th June issue.
>
> Silicon in the Earth's core
> R Bastian Georg 1,2, Alex N. Halliday 1, Edwin A Schauble 3 and Ben C
> Reynolds 2.
> 1. Department of Earth Sciences, University of Oxford 2. Department of
> Earth Sciences, ETH Zentrum, Zurich 3. Department of Earth and Space
> Science, University of California, Los Angeles.
>
> In 1952 the distinguished Harvard geophysicist Francis Birch showed
> that
> the Earth's liquid outer core, where the magnetic field is generated,
> is
> chemically different from the solid metallic iron inner core that
> occupies the very centre of the Earth. Birch argued that the outer
> core
> had a density that was too low to be made of pure iron; it had to
> contain several percent of a lighter element or elements of lower
> atomic
> weight. Since then scientists have sought to determine what these
> light
> elements are and what their concentrations tell us about the
> conditions
> of core formation.
>
> The Science and Technology Facilities Council ensures the UK retains
> its
> leading place on the world stage by delivering world-class science;
> accessing and hosting international facilities; developing innovative
> technologies; and increasing the socio-economic impact of its research
> through effective knowledge-exchange partnerships.
>
> The Council has a broad science portfolio including Astronomy,
> Particle
> Physics, Particle Astrophysics, Nuclear Physics, Space Science,
> Synchrotron Radiation, Neutron Sources and High Power Lasers. In
> addition the Council manages and operates three internationally
> renowned
> laboratories:
> * The Rutherford Appleton Laboratory, Oxfordshire
> * The Daresbury Laboratory, Cheshire
> * The UK Astronomy Technology Centre, Edinburgh
> The Council gives researchers access to world-class facilities and
> funds
> the UK membership of international bodies such as the European
> Laboratory for Particle Physics (CERN), the Institute Laue Langevin
> (ILL), European Synchrotron Radiation Facility (ESRF), the European
> organisation for Astronomical Research in the Southern Hemisphere
> (ESO)
> and the European Space Agency (ESA). It also contributes money for the
> UK telescopes overseas on La Palma, Hawaii, Australia and in Chile,
> and
> the MERLIN/VLBI National Facility, which includes the Lovell Telescope
> at Jodrell Bank Observatory.
- - - -

Very interesting. Perhaps mars never had a plate system like earth, but if
it did, and the above is kosher, it was a bit different from our
core-mantle-crustal plate movement system, I would guess. But one thing is
for certain, today, mars is geologically dead. No volcanoes, no plate
movement.

I had always been told that Si (silicon) did not form in nature, but if
isotopes of silicon were found, perhaps it does, at extreme depths and
temps?

Sounds like a good show for the Science Channel.






Posted by Odysseus on July 4, 2007, 2:00 am
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<snip>
>
> I had always been told that Si (silicon) did not form in nature, but if
> isotopes of silicon were found, perhaps it does, at extreme depths and
> temps?

From my reading of the article I got the impression that it isn't a case
of different isotopes being formed, but that the primordial
(supernova-produced?) mixture of isotopes gets modified in different
ways in various physical/chemical environments. I suppose one might
think of a phase boundary in a planet's interior as a gigantic
chromatographic apparatus, tending to separate those isotopes that
prefer to exist in one phase or the other.

--
Odysseus

Posted by Aidan Karley on July 17, 2007, 4:55 pm
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> Perhaps mars never had a plate system like earth, but if
> it did, and the above is kosher, it was a bit different from our
> core-mantle-crustal plate movement system, I would guess.
There is (disputed) evidence for something plate-tectonic-like happening
early in Mars history. A little south of the equator and covering a bit less
than a quadrant of the equator, there is an area of parallel lines of differing
magnetic intensity which is cross-cut and little affected by the cratering, so
pre-dates the cratering. That puts it sometime between 4565 million years
(construction of the planets) and approximately 3800 million years (end of the
Late Heavy Bombardment, from Lunar impact metamorphism ages). And it
*looks* very like the classic Reykjanes Ridge magnetic anomaly pattern.

However ... with Mars being so much smaller than the Earth, the internal
temperatures are much lower, the initial heating by accretion much lower. Which
changes pretty much all the details from a plate tectonic point of view.

> But one thing is
> for certain, today, mars is geologically dead. No volcanoes, no plate
> movement.
>
Almost certain. The recently announced (suspected) "skylight" openings
into Martian lava tubes suggests that there's still some geological life in
there ; there have been reports of transient clouds on the summits of the
Tharsis volcanos which may be out-gassing ; the annual (Mars years!) movement
of mass from one pole to the other is bound to have some effect ; and of
course, there's the continuing aeolian deposition and re-working. This parrot
hasn't quite fallen off it's perch. Yet.


--
Aidan Karley, FGS,
Aberdeen, Scotland
A light wave is more like a crime wave than a water wave.


Posted by Timberwoof on July 17, 2007, 6:12 pm
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> Yahoo wrote:
> > Perhaps mars never had a plate system like earth, but if it did,
> > and the above is kosher, it was a bit different from our
> > core-mantle-crustal plate movement system, I would guess.
> There is (disputed) evidence for something plate-tectonic-like
> happening
> early in Mars history. A little south of the equator and covering a
> bit less than a quadrant of the equator, there is an area of parallel
> lines of differing magnetic intensity which is cross-cut and little
> affected by the cratering, so pre-dates the cratering.

You mean there are craters in the region, but no magnetic anomalies
correlate with them?

> That puts it
> sometime between 4565 million years (construction of the planets) and
> approximately 3800 million years (end of the Late Heavy Bombardment,
> from Lunar impact metamorphism ages).

Just how did they date the periods of bombardment?

> And it *looks* very like
> the classic Reykjanes Ridge magnetic anomaly pattern.
>
> However ... with Mars being so much smaller than the Earth,
> the internal
> temperatures are much lower, the initial heating by accretion much
> lower. Which changes pretty much all the details from a plate
> tectonic point of view.

Hm. I can understand a smaller body cooling off aster, but why would it
come to a lower temperature? Except for gravitational effects, aren't
its impacts as energetic as those into a larger body? Are those effects
what would account for that difference?

> > But one thing is for certain, today, mars is geologically dead. No
> > volcanoes, no plate movement.
> >
> Almost certain. The recently announced (suspected) "skylight"
> openings
> into Martian lava tubes suggests that there's still some geological
> life in there ; there have been reports of transient clouds on the
> summits of the Tharsis volcanos which may be out-gassing ; the annual
> (Mars years!) movement of mass from one pole to the other is bound to
> have some effect ; and of course, there's the continuing aeolian
> deposition and re-working. This parrot hasn't quite fallen off it's
> perch. Yet.

--
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emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L.
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