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Restricted User Group Will 11-05-2005
---> RE: Restricted User Group Ralph D. Worgulù¥¦Ö¢¸.•جrë,11-05-2005
Posted by Will on November 5, 2005, 3:37 pm
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On one of my computers I see a group in the list of users named
"Restricted". When I go to the domain controller the Active Users
application does not show this group.

What is the meaning of this group, and how does one populate it?

--
Will




Posted by Ralph D. Worgulù¥¦Ö¢¸.•جrë, on November 5, 2005, 5:49 pm
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Will,

have a look here
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;320045. While this
talks about Windows 2000 it also applies to 2003. Purpose is to procted you
as an Admin from making mistakes and limiting the membership of a group to
preselected users.
--
Hope this helps

Ralph D. Worgul


"Will" wrote:

> On one of my computers I see a group in the list of users named
> "Restricted". When I go to the domain controller the Active Users
> application does not show this group.
>
> What is the meaning of this group, and how does one populate it?
>
> --
> Will
>
>
>


Posted by Will on November 5, 2005, 6:28 pm
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So you are saying that when I bring up a list of users and groups in a
permission list, that the entity with the name "Restricted" is actual a
shorthand notation for *all* of the groups that are listed in the
"Restricted Groups" Group Policy folder?

What possible reason would there ever be to assign an ACL against all such
groups? As I understand the Restricted Groups concept, this is just a way
to prevent users from trying to override the contents of some key groups.
Aside from their all being important groups, what common thread would
require you to join them together in a single ACL reference?

--
Will

> Will,
>
> have a look here
this
> talks about Windows 2000 it also applies to 2003. Purpose is to procted
you
> as an Admin from making mistakes and limiting the membership of a group to
> preselected users.
> --
> Hope this helps
>
> Ralph D. Worgul
>
>
> "Will" wrote:
>
> > On one of my computers I see a group in the list of users named
> > "Restricted". When I go to the domain controller the Active Users
> > application does not show this group.
> >
> > What is the meaning of this group, and how does one populate it?
> >
> > --
> > Will




Posted by Roger Abell [MVP] on November 7, 2005, 2:26 pm
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No. Will is confusing a couple of different things.
The Restricted you are mentioning is a sid used to limited
the abilities of certain accounts when this sid is stuffed into
their user token. Steve has filled you in on this.

This is not related to the protected groups nor to the
Restricted Groups that can be defined in group policy.

> So you are saying that when I bring up a list of users and groups in a
> permission list, that the entity with the name "Restricted" is actual a
> shorthand notation for *all* of the groups that are listed in the
> "Restricted Groups" Group Policy folder?
>
> What possible reason would there ever be to assign an ACL against all such
> groups? As I understand the Restricted Groups concept, this is just a
> way
> to prevent users from trying to override the contents of some key groups.
> Aside from their all being important groups, what common thread would
> require you to join them together in a single ACL reference?
>
> --
> Will
>
> message
>> Will,
>>
>> have a look here
> this
>> talks about Windows 2000 it also applies to 2003. Purpose is to procted
> you
>> as an Admin from making mistakes and limiting the membership of a group
>> to
>> preselected users.
>> --
>> Hope this helps
>>
>> Ralph D. Worgul
>>
>>
>> "Will" wrote:
>>
>> > On one of my computers I see a group in the list of users named
>> > "Restricted". When I go to the domain controller the Active Users
>> > application does not show this group.
>> >
>> > What is the meaning of this group, and how does one populate it?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Will
>
>




Posted by Steven L Umbach on November 5, 2005, 10:56 pm
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It is not a group. It is a built in special identity used when runas is
used. The link below explains more about this and other special identities.
You can not manage special identities but you can use them in access control
lists which is sometimes done with the likes of authenticated users and is
why you see them listed when you are configuring ACLs. You can use gpresult
to see which of these is included in a user and computer's security token or
use whoami /groups to what your user account shows. Gpresult and whoami may
need to be installed as part of the support tools. -- Steve

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/prnc_sid_cids.asp

Restricted An identity used by a process that is executed in a
restricted security context. When you launch a program in Windows XP
Professional with the graphical RunAs utility, selecting "Protect my
computer and data from unauthorized program activity runs the program with a
restricted token that contains the S-5-12 SID.


> On one of my computers I see a group in the list of users named
> "Restricted". When I go to the domain controller the Active Users
> application does not show this group.
>
> What is the meaning of this group, and how does one populate it?
>
> --
> Will
>
>




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