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Posted by C A Upsdell on June 4, 2008, 1:19 pm
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howa wrote:
> Just found a funny things..
>
> in HTML4's dtd, http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd
>
> language is not valid, i.e.

You're comparing apples and oranges: strict and transitional.

Posted by howa on June 4, 2008, 1:31 pm
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> howa wrote:
> > Just found a funny things..
>
> > in HTML4's dtd,http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd
>
> > language is not valid, i.e.
>
> You're comparing apples and oranges: strict and transitional.

Oh...I have misread that!

So change the topic:

Why language is allowed in transitional, but not strict ?


Howard

Posted by Rik Wasmus on June 4, 2008, 3:12 pm
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>> howa wrote:
>> > Just found a funny things..
>>
>> > in HTML4's dtd,http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd
>>
>> > language is not valid, i.e.
>>
>> You're comparing apples and oranges: strict and transitional.
>
> Oh...I have misread that!
>
> So change the topic:
>
> Why language is allowed in transitional, but not strict ?

Because it's deprecated, so it will be in many old documents, and while
TRANSITIONING to a new DTD/version, it can be many of them are still not
'caught'/altered. The moment of complete compliance, as soon as you're
done transitioning, you also have replaced all the language attributes
with type-attributes, and you can use STRICT. Using transitional for html
not transitioning is just silly...
--
Rik Wasmus
...spamrun finished

Posted by howa on June 4, 2008, 11:35 pm
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Hi

> Because it's deprecated, so it will be in many old documents, and while
> TRANSITIONING to a new DTD/version, it can be many of them are still not
> 'caught'/altered. The moment of complete compliance, as soon as you're
> done transitioning, you also have replaced all the language attributes
> with type-attributes, and you can use STRICT. Using transitional for html
> not transitioning is just silly...
> --
> Rik Wasmus
> ...spamrun finished

Interesting questions would be

1. Who created it? Why removed finally?
2. `type` is required even at HTML4 dtd, why people are only using
`language`? (Due to incorrect implementation of Dreamweaver /
Frontpage for example?)

Howard

Posted by C A Upsdell on June 5, 2008, 1:21 am
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howa wrote:
>> Because it's deprecated, so it will be in many old documents, and while
>> TRANSITIONING to a new DTD/version, it can be many of them are still not
>> 'caught'/altered. The moment of complete compliance, as soon as you're
>> done transitioning, you also have replaced all the language attributes
>> with type-attributes, and you can use STRICT. Using transitional for html
>> not transitioning is just silly...
>> --
>> Rik Wasmus
>> ...spamrun finished
>
> Interesting questions would be
>
> 1. Who created it? Why removed finally?
> 2. `type` is required even at HTML4 dtd, why people are only using
> `language`? (Due to incorrect implementation of Dreamweaver /
> Frontpage for example?)

Netscape 4 did not support TYPE, so LANGUAGE had to be used until
Netscape 4 became extinct, and even when it had become extinct, many
people continued to use LANGUAGE, perhaps out of habit.





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