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Re: looking for individuals to run local security groups VanguardLH 03-04-2008
Posted by Tom [Pepper] Willett on March 6, 2008, 9:39 am
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:
: When someone claims to be an MVP that I don't recognize, I visit the
: biglist page at MVPS.org to verify that who they claim they are is
: actually listed as an MVP. I have seen some posters that claimed to
: be an MVP but were not.

Not all MVPs choose to have themselves listed on mvps.org, or publicly on
the MS site.

Tom
:



Posted by VanguardLH on March 6, 2008, 9:54 am
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"Tom [Pepper] Willett" wrote in message
>
>> When someone claims to be an MVP that I don't recognize, I visit
>> the
>> biglist page at MVPS.org to verify that who they claim they are is
>> actually listed as an MVP. I have seen some posters that claimed
>> to
>>be an MVP but were not.
>
> Not all MVPs choose to have themselves listed on mvps.org, or
> publicly on
> the MS site.


Then where is the verification that someone did not self-nominate
themself as an MVP? If someone puts a certificate on the wall, they
had better expect that someone might actually check that the paper is
valid. Odd that someone who was nominated and elected to be an MVP -
and who CHOSE to be elected and nominated - decides to hide that fact.
A doctor whose credentials you cannot verify should NOT be trusted.
Same for MVPs.


Posted by Brad Dinerman [MVP - Enterpris on March 7, 2008, 5:45 am
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MVPs.org is definitely not the authoritative list of MVPs. As you had
observed, my Web site link was out of date on that list. My original
site was http://www.neisug.com, but we decommissioned that quite a while
ago as our group evolved into http://www.naisg.org.

Personally, I visit mvps.org once per year or less, so I did not notice
that the link still pointed to the old site and forgot to notify them.
That's all there is to it; nothing more and nothing less.

If you want an authoritative list of MVPs, then go to
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx. That is the
ONLY list that is considered official by Microsoft. All MVPs will be
listed there, though the amount of information that is available about
any given MVP is at the discretion of that individual. Some MVPs list
as much information as possible, others are more humble or concerned
about their privacy.

Also, for what it's worth, MVPs do not choose to be nominated as you
indicated. Anyone can be nominated by anyone else with or without their
consent. However, the MVP must decide whether to accept it if the
nomination is turned into an award.


_______________________________________________
Bradley J. Dinerman, MVP - Enterprise Security
President, National Information Security Group
http://www.naisg.org





VanguardLH wrote:
> "Tom [Pepper] Willett" wrote in message
>>
>>> When someone claims to be an MVP that I don't recognize, I visit the
>>> biglist page at MVPS.org to verify that who they claim they are is
>>> actually listed as an MVP. I have seen some posters that claimed to
>>> be an MVP but were not.
>>
>> Not all MVPs choose to have themselves listed on mvps.org, or publicly on
>> the MS site.
>
>
> Then where is the verification that someone did not self-nominate
> themself as an MVP? If someone puts a certificate on the wall, they had
> better expect that someone might actually check that the paper is
> valid. Odd that someone who was nominated and elected to be an MVP -
> and who CHOSE to be elected and nominated - decides to hide that fact. A
> doctor whose credentials you cannot verify should NOT be trusted. Same
> for MVPs.

Posted by VanguardLH on March 7, 2008, 6:24 am
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>
> If you want an authoritative list of MVPs, then go to
> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx.

Oh, forgot about that list. Thanks for the reminder.


Posted by VanguardLH on March 7, 2008, 6:27 am
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> Also, for what it's worth, MVPs do not choose to be nominated as you
> indicated. Anyone can be nominated by anyone else with or without
> their consent. However, the MVP must decide whether to accept it if
> the nomination is turned into an award.


That's not what I meant. Someone, like an MVP, might contact you to
*ask* if you want to be nominated. You don't have to accept. No one
can force you to be an MVP. I got asked if I wanted to be nominated
and I declined. You get to choose if you get nominated when contacted
to ask if you want to be nominated. It's not like you get nominated
in absentia.


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