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Posted by Uri Guttman on May 3, 2008, 2:26 am
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BB> On Sat, 03 May 2008 04:15:12 +0000, Uri Guttman wrote:
>> in another post i pointed you to the perl6 wiki. and its FUD FAQ page
>> will answer most of your negative questions:
>>
>> http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl6/index.cgi?fud
BB> Thank you, but I have seen that page before, and it and many
BB> similar web pages are exactly what scares me about Perl 6. It's
BB> the Hans Reiser defence, the "if I think of enough excuses, people
BB> are bound to believe it" method of defending a project. Why would
BB> anyone need to write a page like that, unless things actually were
BB> going wrong? The problem for Hans Reiser was that the more excuses
BB> he made, the worse he made himself look. In the end he was
BB> convicted based more on his bizarre excuses than anything
BB> else. Perl 6 has a similar problem, the people who try to defend
BB> it are making it look worse.
you are declaring yourself to be a fool with that statement. do you know
larry wall or damian conway and others to be making excuses? please shut
up before we drop the assumption of foolishness and label it a fact. i
know many of the perl6 developers personally and what you said is
insulting to them. also none of them are convicted murderers AFAIK.
uri
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Posted by Ben Bullock on May 3, 2008, 3:20 am
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On Sat, 03 May 2008 06:26:18 +0000, Uri Guttman wrote:
> do you know
> larry wall or damian conway and others to be making excuses?
I don't know who wrote that Wiki page, but it's my feeling that it is
making unconvincing excuses.
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Posted by Stephan Bour on May 3, 2008, 1:17 pm
Please log in for more thread options Uri Guttman wrote:
}
} > On Sat, 03 May 2008 04:15:12 +0000, Uri Guttman wrote:
} > > in another post i pointed you to the perl6 wiki. and its FUD FAQ
} > > page will answer most of your negative questions:
} > >
} > > http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl6/index.cgi?fud
}
} > Thank you, but I have seen that page before, and it and many
} > similar web pages are exactly what scares me about Perl 6. It's
} > the Hans Reiser defence, the "if I think of enough excuses, people
} > are bound to believe it" method of defending a project. Why would
} > anyone need to write a page like that, unless things actually were
} > going wrong? The problem for Hans Reiser was that the more excuses
} > he made, the worse he made himself look. In the end he was
} > convicted based more on his bizarre excuses than anything
} > else. Perl 6 has a similar problem, the people who try to defend
} > it are making it look worse.
}
} you are declaring yourself to be a fool with that statement.
No, it is you who continually make a fool of themselves.
} please shut up before we drop the assumption of foolishness and label
} it a fact.
You sure like telling people to "shut up"... were you bullied a lot in
primary school? Stop pretending you are king-of-Perl-land and pull your
head out of your ass and stop defending things for the pure sake of
defending and stop ignoring reality.
} i know many of the perl6 developers personally and what you said is
} insulting to them.
If you cannot take basic criticism, then don't create anything. Move
to Antarctica, as I'm sure you could code without fear of criticism from
the penguins.
} also none of them are convicted murderers AFAIK.
So what? Stop making all these bloody non-points, and please try to make
some sense.
Stephan.
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Posted by Uri Guttman on May 3, 2008, 3:02 pm
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SB> } you are declaring yourself to be a fool with that statement.
SB> No, it is you who continually make a fool of themselves.
nah, i only am a discontinous fool. i have sharp level jumps all over
the place.
SB> } please shut up before we drop the assumption of foolishness and label
SB> } it a fact.
SB> You sure like telling people to "shut up"... were you bullied a lot in
SB> primary school? Stop pretending you are king-of-Perl-land and pull your
SB> head out of your ass and stop defending things for the pure sake of
SB> defending and stop ignoring reality.
i am a one eyed king in the land of blind perl kiddies!
SB> } i know many of the perl6 developers personally and what you said is
SB> } insulting to them.
SB> If you cannot take basic criticism, then don't create anything. Move
SB> to Antarctica, as I'm sure you could code without fear of criticism from
SB> the penguins.
basic criticism? i hate basic. i am very critical of it.
SB> } also none of them are convicted murderers AFAIK.
SB> So what? Stop making all these bloody non-points, and please try to make
SB> some sense.
you obviously don't read slashdot or know about reiser. have some more
fun and read something else for a change.
i make enough sense to be understood by those i want to understand
me. works fine.
uri
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Posted by Dr.Ruud on May 3, 2008, 7:00 am
Please log in for more thread options Ben Bullock schreef:
> Why would anyone need to write a page like that,
> unless things actually were going wrong?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy
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