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Re: Venology Nick Cramer 05-29-2008
|--> Re: Venology Ken S. Tucker05-30-2008
  `--> Re: Venology Ken S. Tucker05-30-2008
Posted by Nick Cramer on May 29, 2008, 10:59 pm
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david.williams@bayman.org (David Williams) wrote:
> -> Ok, I think I'll toast your mom for passing a big
> -> head like you had as a baby....cheers!
>
> How right you are. In fact, I still take extra-large sizes in hats.
>
> -> I'll use the Standard Solar System Evolution Theory.
> -> Compared to Earth, Venus had more meteor bomb-
> -> bardment, (~1/r^2) and more energetic (1/r), and
> -> had more radial surface heating, all compared to
> -> Earth. So when the Venusian crust finally hardened
> -> 500,000,000 years ago was in accord with SSSET.
>
> How about Mercury, which has *lots* of craters, despite being only
> about half as far from the sun as Venus?
>
> -> Yeah, I'm off beer and on to Tang, it's the least sugared
> -> juice I can find!

> Less than pure OJ?
>
> I drink very little juice nowadays. 1 gram of Vitamin C a day, as a
> pill, is plenty.

But a Screwdriver or Bloody Mary is so good! I have one about once a month,
as neither is diabetes friendly. ;-(

--
Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!
I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War. They
are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not
forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~

Posted by Ken S. Tucker on May 30, 2008, 4:02 am
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> david.willi...@bayman.org (David Williams) wrote:
...
> > -> Yeah, I'm off beer and on to Tang, it's the least sugared
> > -> juice I can find!
> > Less than pure OJ?

Don't know about sugar, but OJ is to acidic for me,
tho a glass everyonce in awhile is good.

> > I drink very little juice nowadays. 1 gram of Vitamin C a day, as a
> > pill, is plenty.

Well I don't eat breakfast or lunch, so sippin'
Tang gives a nice easy energy.

> But a Screwdriver or Bloody Mary is so good! I have one about once a month,
> as neither is diabetes friendly. ;-(

Yeah, I'm mid 50's, 6' , med frame and hold my weight
at ~180#, and put a splash of vodka in the Tang, tho I've
been known to put a splash of Tang in my vodka :-).

My hobby is building, which uses Skil saws, hammers
etc. which have irritating noises, so I dull the senses.
Ken

> Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!
> I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War. They
> are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not
> forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~

Posted by Ralph on May 30, 2008, 11:44 am
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I'm curious on the Venus statements.

Since Venus is smaller than Earth, and also reported less dense, how do you
get more bombardment, and more energy?


> david.williams@bayman.org (David Williams) wrote:
>> -> Ok, I think I'll toast your mom for passing a big
>> -> head like you had as a baby....cheers!
>>
>> How right you are. In fact, I still take extra-large sizes in hats.
>>
>> -> I'll use the Standard Solar System Evolution Theory.
>> -> Compared to Earth, Venus had more meteor bomb-
>> -> bardment, (~1/r^2) and more energetic (1/r), and
>> -> had more radial surface heating, all compared to
>> -> Earth. So when the Venusian crust finally hardened
>> -> 500,000,000 years ago was in accord with SSSET.
>>
>> How about Mercury, which has *lots* of craters, despite being only
>> about half as far from the sun as Venus?
>>
>> -> Yeah, I'm off beer and on to Tang, it's the least sugared
>> -> juice I can find!
>
>> Less than pure OJ?
>>
>> I drink very little juice nowadays. 1 gram of Vitamin C a day, as a
>> pill, is plenty.
>
> But a Screwdriver or Bloody Mary is so good! I have one about once a
> month,
> as neither is diabetes friendly. ;-(
>
> --
> Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!
> I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War.
> They
> are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not
> forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~


Posted by Ken S. Tucker on May 30, 2008, 1:42 pm
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Hi Ralph, Dave and all.

> I'm curious on the Venus statements.
> Since Venus is smaller than Earth, and also reported less dense, how do you
> get more bombardment, and more energy?

I guess you're asking me, (good question :-).
The sun is a great gravitational attractor. Debris that infalls
into the sun, that goes through an imaginary surface shell at
r=2 , (surface Area=4*pi*(r=2)^2 = 16*pi) is the same debris
that goes through at r=1, (Surface Area = 4*pi), so the debris
infall "flux" is proportional to some constant / r^2.

Venus is ~0.7AU to the Sun than Earth (1 AU), so the debris
flux at Venus distance is 2x Earths.

The next factor is debris infall energy, which is proportional to
1/r. So at Venus the debris energy is 1.4x greater than at
Earth.

> >> -> I'll use the Standard Solar System Evolution Theory.
> >> -> Compared to Earth, Venus had more meteor bomb-
> >> -> bardment, (~1/r^2) and more energetic (1/r), and
> >> -> had more radial surface heating, all compared to
> >> -> Earth. So when the Venusian crust finally hardened
> >> -> 500,000,000 years ago was in accord with SSSET.
>
> >> How about Mercury, which has *lots* of craters, despite being only
> >> about half as far from the sun as Venus?

Well Dave you have ~6.25 the debris flux at Mercury (.4AU)
and an energy of x2.5 greater than at 1AU, of course you
know all that, (I'm singing to the choir).

Two factors that are intriguing me are:

1) The atmosphere of Venus attenuating Venites (that's
my word for meteorites hitting Venus), Venosphere density
evolution.

2) Solar System Evolution suggests heavier and therefore
more radioactive elements would tend to be more prevalent
in bodies closer to the Sun. Therefore, Venus should have
more radioactive heating in it's core than Earth. That effect
may have postponed the Venusian crust formation, together
with solar heating.

2a) Given that view of Venusian radioactive core heating,
it appears that does NOT contribute to major TECTONIC
PLATE motion.

2b) In view of (2a) we must look to the Moon for tectonic
plate movement instead of the supposed radioactivity of
the Earths core being causal.
Regards
Ken S. Tucker

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