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Re: Scientists Discover Tenth Planet (2003 UB313) David Williams 07-31-2005
Posted by David Williams on July 31, 2005, 7:19 am
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-> There were two objects announced yesterday. 2003 UB313 seems to be
-> larger than pluto. 2003 EL61 is not larger than pluto, even though it
-> was thought to be for a while.

It's too early to say whether either of these objects is larger than
Pluto, or which is larger than the other. All we know is how much light
they reflect, from which we can *guess* their sizes only by *guessing*
their albedos.

But why does it matter? If there is a horde of roughly-Pluto-sized
things out there beyond Neptune, surely this strengthens the case for
*not* calling Pluto a planet. It doesn't mean that we have to call the
other things planets too.

If something is found that is bigger than Mercury, then maybe we should
call it a planet. But nothing that size has been found yet.

dow


Posted by MIKE ROSS on July 31, 2005, 10:43 am
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"David Williams" bravely wrote to "All" (31 Jul 05 07:19:37)
--- on the heady topic of "Re: Scientists Discover Tenth Planet (2003 UB313)"

DW> From: david.williams@bayman.org (David Williams)
DW> Xref: aeinews alt.sci.planetary:6552

-> There were two objects announced yesterday. 2003 UB313 seems to be
-> larger than pluto. 2003 EL61 is not larger than pluto, even though it
-> was thought to be for a while.
DW>
DW> It's too early to say whether either of these objects is larger than
DW> Pluto, or which is larger than the other. All we know is how much
DW> light they reflect, from which we can *guess* their sizes only by
DW> *guessing* their albedos.
DW>
DW> But why does it matter? If there is a horde of roughly-Pluto-sized
DW> things out there beyond Neptune, surely this strengthens the case for
DW> *not* calling Pluto a planet. It doesn't mean that we have to call the
DW> other things planets too.
DW>
DW> If something is found that is bigger than Mercury, then maybe we
DW> should call it a planet. But nothing that size has been found yet.


As has already been done with Quaoar and Sedna, how many more 10'th
planet announcements are we going to have!?

M*i*k*e




Posted by robert casey on July 31, 2005, 9:32 pm
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>
> As has already been done with Quaoar and Sedna, how many more 10'th
> planet announcements are we going to have!?
>

But everyone figured that those KBOs were smaller than Pluto.
2003UB313 is the first one that looks to be really bigger than
Pluto.


Posted by rpgo on July 31, 2005, 12:05 pm
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>-> There were two objects announced yesterday. 2003 UB313 seems to be
> -> larger than pluto. 2003 EL61 is not larger than pluto, even though it
> -> was thought to be for a while.
>
> It's too early to say whether either of these objects is larger than
> Pluto, or which is larger than the other. All we know is how much light
> they reflect, from which we can *guess* their sizes only by *guessing*
> their albedos.
>
> But why does it matter? If there is a horde of roughly-Pluto-sized
> things out there beyond Neptune, surely this strengthens the case for
> *not* calling Pluto a planet. It doesn't mean that we have to call the
> other things planets too.
>
> If something is found that is bigger than Mercury, then maybe we should
> call it a planet. But nothing that size has been found yet.
>
> dow

the news releases imply that the lower limit on the size of 2003 UB313 (if
it were a "perfect" reflector) is as large as Pluto.
It is therefore most probably significantly larger.






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