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Re: Don't order from Lenovo Paul J Gans 08-31-2008
Posted by Paul J Gans on August 31, 2008, 12:16 am
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>On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:44:59 -0700 (PDT), brad wrote:

>> I ordered a Lenovo Linux laptop on 8/3/2008. Yesterday I was informed
>> that it will not ship till the end of September,. It is apparent to me
>> that they knew on 8/3 that they could not ship in the forseeable
>> future.
>>
>> They are also discontinueing their support of Linux on their Thinkpad
>> T series, and lessening their offerings overall for the USA.
>>
>> You can scratch Lenovo off the list of friends of Linux!
>>
>> Brad

>Hopefully you did NOT order this model because if you did, I would cancel
>my order immediately.
>In fact I would cancel my order with them immediately anyhow.

My Lenovo T61 has been running openSUSE for over a year now
with NO problems at all.

--
--- Paul J. Gans

Posted by alt on August 31, 2008, 4:58 am
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On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 04:16:44 +0000, Paul J Gans wrote:

>>On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:44:59 -0700 (PDT), brad wrote:
>
>>> I ordered a Lenovo Linux laptop on 8/3/2008. Yesterday I was informed
>>> that it will not ship till the end of September,. It is apparent to me
>>> that they knew on 8/3 that they could not ship in the forseeable
>>> future.
>>>
>>> They are also discontinueing their support of Linux on their Thinkpad
>>> T series, and lessening their offerings overall for the USA.
>>>
>>> You can scratch Lenovo off the list of friends of Linux!
>>>
>>> Brad
>
>>Hopefully you did NOT order this model because if you did, I would
>>cancel my order immediately.
>>In fact I would cancel my order with them immediately anyhow.
>
> My Lenovo T61 has been running openSUSE for over a year now with NO
> problems at all.

Most modern laptops run Linux with little to no problems. The biggest
problem is usually the wireless adapter. Broadcom is especially guilty
for not releasing specs or apis for their wireless chipsets (and should
rightly be shunned).

I currently recommend Toshiba laptops as they run Ubuntu out of the box
with no problems. My older Dell Inspiron 5150 is also very linux friendly.

Of course, my Eee is really linux friendly ;-)

Posted by zmdmw52 on August 31, 2008, 8:07 am
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> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 04:16:44 +0000, Paul J Gans wrote:
> >>On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:44:59 -0700 (PDT), brad wrote:
>
> >>> I ordered a Lenovo Linux laptop on 8/3/2008. Yesterday I was informed
> >>> that it will not ship till the end of September,. It is apparent to m=
e
> >>> that they knew on 8/3 that they could not ship in the forseeable
> >>> future.
>
> >>> They are also discontinueing their support of Linux on their Thinkpad
> >>> T series, and lessening their offerings overall for the USA.
>
> >>> You can scratch Lenovo off the list of friends of Linux!
>
> >>> Brad
>
> >>Hopefully you did NOT order this model because if you did, I would
> >>cancel my order immediately.
> >>In fact I would cancel my order with them immediately anyhow.
>
> > My Lenovo T61 has been running openSUSE for over a year now with NO
> > problems at all.
>
> Most modern laptops run Linux with little to no problems. The biggest
> problem is usually the wireless adapter. Broadcom is especially guilty
> for not releasing specs or apis for their wireless chipsets (and should
> rightly be shunned).
>

Do Intel Wireless adapters (Intel 802.11 abg wireless) need drivers or
do they work out-of-the-box? (this is for a TP R61)

Posted by Tom Rutherford on August 31, 2008, 9:59 am
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>
> > On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 04:16:44 +0000, Paul J Gans wrote:
> > >>On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:44:59 -0700 (PDT), brad wrote:
> >
> > >>> I ordered a Lenovo Linux laptop on 8/3/2008. Yesterday I was
informed
> > >>> that it will not ship till the end of September,. It is apparent to
me
> > >>> that they knew on 8/3 that they could not ship in the forseeable
> > >>> future.
> >
> > >>> They are also discontinueing their support of Linux on their
Thinkpad
> > >>> T series, and lessening their offerings overall for the USA.
> >
> > >>> You can scratch Lenovo off the list of friends of Linux!
> >
> > >>> Brad
> >
> > >>Hopefully you did NOT order this model because if you did, I would
> > >>cancel my order immediately.
> > >>In fact I would cancel my order with them immediately anyhow.
> >
> > > My Lenovo T61 has been running openSUSE for over a year now with NO
> > > problems at all.
> >
> > Most modern laptops run Linux with little to no problems. The biggest
> > problem is usually the wireless adapter. Broadcom is especially guilty
> > for not releasing specs or apis for their wireless chipsets (and should
> > rightly be shunned).
> >
>
> Do Intel Wireless adapters (Intel 802.11 abg wireless) need drivers or
> do they work out-of-the-box? (this is for a TP R61)

From the live CD (Ubuntu 8.04), mine worked, after a little fiddlin'. I'm
wondering how it'll work once I get it installed on the hard drive. I'm
collecting data on just how to do that without GRUB getting in the way of
Winderz booting, too. Of course, mine's not an a/b/g; it's just a b/g.

--
-- 73 DE Tom Rutherford, N8EUJ, Burton, MI
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Posted by AnimalMagic on September 3, 2008, 10:23 pm
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wrote:

>>
>> > On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 04:16:44 +0000, Paul J Gans wrote:
>> > >>On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:44:59 -0700 (PDT), brad wrote:
>> >
>> > >>> I ordered a Lenovo Linux laptop on 8/3/2008. Yesterday I was
>informed
>> > >>> that it will not ship till the end of September,. It is apparent to
>me
>> > >>> that they knew on 8/3 that they could not ship in the forseeable
>> > >>> future.
>> >
>> > >>> They are also discontinueing their support of Linux on their
>Thinkpad
>> > >>> T series, and lessening their offerings overall for the USA.
>> >
>> > >>> You can scratch Lenovo off the list of friends of Linux!
>> >
>> > >>> Brad
>> >
>> > >>Hopefully you did NOT order this model because if you did, I would
>> > >>cancel my order immediately.
>> > >>In fact I would cancel my order with them immediately anyhow.
>> >
>> > > My Lenovo T61 has been running openSUSE for over a year now with NO
>> > > problems at all.
>> >
>> > Most modern laptops run Linux with little to no problems. The biggest
>> > problem is usually the wireless adapter. Broadcom is especially guilty
>> > for not releasing specs or apis for their wireless chipsets (and should
>> > rightly be shunned).
>> >
>>
>> Do Intel Wireless adapters (Intel 802.11 abg wireless) need drivers or
>> do they work out-of-the-box? (this is for a TP R61)
>
>From the live CD (Ubuntu 8.04), mine worked, after a little fiddlin'. I'm
>wondering how it'll work once I get it installed on the hard drive. I'm
>collecting data on just how to do that without GRUB getting in the way of
>Winderz booting, too. Of course, mine's not an a/b/g; it's just a b/g.


Re-size the front end of the Windows partition. Take away 32MB. Make
that a FAT 16 partition and put XOSL boot loader there. Create Linux
partitions and install one or more Linux flavors to the remainder of that
drive, or other available volume.

The XOSL boot loader allows GUI menu selectable booting and
configuration. The partition is hidden from Windows.

Then place any boot loaders during any Linux installations in the MBR
of the partition you installed it to. That way, the xosl boot loader can
point to it, and when the grub, etc. runs, you can change your mind and
boot something else even, if you wish.

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