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PocketTux? hns 07-14-2005
---> Re: PocketTux? Phil Frisbie, J...07-14-2005
Posted by hns on July 14, 2005, 12:39 am
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 I just read the PocketDOS announcement and find it an interesting
approach to provide an alternative operating system on top of Pocket
PC.

So, why not write a kernel that is Linux API compatible and sits on top
of Pocket PC? Runs as a plain application from Pocket PC view and is a
full Linux system call engine from the Linux code.

This would eliminate the direct hardware dependency of Linux kernels
adapted for a specific machine since it would use the Pocket PC API for
accessing files and interfaces etc.

Ideas? Wishes? Volunteers?

-- hns



Posted by Phil Frisbie, Jr. on July 14, 2005, 3:51 pm
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 hns@computer.org wrote:

> I just read the PocketDOS announcement and find it an interesting
> approach to provide an alternative operating system on top of Pocket
> PC.
>
> So, why not write a kernel that is Linux API compatible and sits on top
> of Pocket PC? Runs as a plain application from Pocket PC view and is a
> full Linux system call engine from the Linux code.
>
> This would eliminate the direct hardware dependency of Linux kernels
> adapted for a specific machine since it would use the Pocket PC API for
> accessing files and interfaces etc.
>
> Ideas? Wishes? Volunteers?

coLinux (http://www.colinux.org/) is already there for desktop Windows. You
could start with that code and port it to CE.

I would be willing to allocate some time testing if someone else had the time to
code.....

--
Phil Frisbie, Jr.
Hawk Software
http://www.hawksoft.com


Posted by hns on July 15, 2005, 12:05 am
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That is a good idea. Anyone of the colinux project here to discuss
feasibility? Or event the colinux project to develop a Pocket PC
version?

-- hns



Posted by Alan W Black on July 15, 2005, 9:15 am
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> hns@computer.org wrote:
>
> > I just read the PocketDOS announcement and find it an interesting
> > approach to provide an alternative operating system on top of Pocket
> > PC.
> > So, why not write a kernel that is Linux API compatible and sits on
> > top
> > of Pocket PC? Runs as a plain application from Pocket PC view and is a
> > full Linux system call engine from the Linux code.
> > This would eliminate the direct hardware dependency of Linux kernels
> > adapted for a specific machine since it would use the Pocket PC API for
> > accessing files and interfaces etc.
> > Ideas? Wishes? Volunteers?
>
> coLinux (http://www.colinux.org/) is already there for desktop
> Windows. You could start with that code and port it to CE.
>
> I would be willing to allocate some time testing if someone else had
> the time to code.....

celib.dll sort of provides that functionality.
http://www.rainer-keuchel.de/software.html
I think of it as like CYGWIN for WinCE.

Though there seems to be much less activity on this than there
used to be.

Alan

Alan W Black email: awb@cs.cmu.edu
Language Technologies Institute http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~awb/
Carnegie Mellon University tel: +1-412-268-6299
5000 Forbes Ave, Pittsburgh PA, 15213, USA. fax: +1-412-268-6298



Posted by hns on July 16, 2005, 3:53 am
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> celib.dll sort of provides that functionality.
> http://www.rainer-keuchel.de/software.html
> I think of it as like CYGWIN for WinCE.
>
> Though there seems to be much less activity on this than there
> used to be.

http://www.rainer-keuchel.de/wince/celib.html

that is also an interesting work to build on.

Yes it is more a compatibility library like CYGWIN than a real kernel
that loads and executes precompiled object files. But approaches how to
convert system calls like open(), read(), write(), select() into
appropriate WinCE/Pocket PC system calls can certainly be derived from
there.

But I think it could also be useful for bootstrapping a PocketTux
system.

-- hns




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