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Please advise re: linking to remote text! Ron M. 06-02-2005
Posted by Ron M. on June 2, 2005, 9:17 am
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Can someone please help me with some HTML code for linking to specific
text on another web site? In this case, the user clicks on a link, and
it goes to a large governmental site with about 30 screenfuls of legal
text on a single page. I can't install anchors on the governmental
site, obviously, because it's not my site.

I'm trying to keep the user from having to go to that page, then waste
time scrolling up and down trying to find what he's looking for. For
what it's worth, I'm using Front Page, even though I also do "manual"
HTML coding when needed.

It needs to be something fast and simple, as there are LARGE numbers of
such links, and they will be changed and updated frequently.

I've played with different ways of coding it, but nothing works: the
user just goes to the top of the page.

Any assistance or advice would be GREATLY appreciated.

Ron M.


Posted by kchayka on June 2, 2005, 2:23 pm
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Ron M. wrote:
>
> Can someone please help me with some HTML code for linking to specific
> text on another web site? In this case, the user clicks on a link, and
> it goes to a large governmental site with about 30 screenfuls of legal
> text on a single page. I can't install anchors on the governmental
> site, obviously, because it's not my site.

If the page in question doesn't use ID attributes or named anchors,
there isn't any way to link to a particular section of the text. There's
nothing you can do about this.

> I'm trying to keep the user from having to go to that page, then waste
> time scrolling up and down trying to find what he's looking for.

Have you tried doing a "find in page" (usually CTRL+F) to get there
faster? Firefox also has type-ahead-find, which is very useful for this
sort of thing.

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Posted by Philip Ronan on June 2, 2005, 6:35 pm
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"Ron M." wrote:

> Can someone please help me with some HTML code for linking to specific
> text on another web site? In this case, the user clicks on a link, and
> it goes to a large governmental site with about 30 screenfuls of legal
> text on a single page. I can't install anchors on the governmental
> site, obviously, because it's not my site.
>
> I'm trying to keep the user from having to go to that page, then waste
> time scrolling up and down trying to find what he's looking for.

If you're just referring to a few lines of text, then why not just put an
excerpt on your page, with a hyperlink to the original page for people to
follow if they want to read the whole thing?

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Posted by Ron M. on June 2, 2005, 12:03 pm
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Thanks, Philip, but I really need an answer to the question, not an
alternative approach.

To be a little more specific, what this involves is a list of links
going to various places in state statutes, federal code, etc. Let me
give you a fictitious example...

"Transportation" is in Section 8 of the state code.

So the user clicks on "Transportation" to go to the section of code
that deals with Transportation. The problem is, Section 8 occupies 30
screens of text, and the page or two dealing with transportation is
buried down around screen 15 or so. The user just gets sent to the top
of the Section 8 web site, and has to scroll down through 15 pages of
legalese to find the part on transportation.

This is a high-intensity office where it's really a big deal to shave a
few seconds off of a task, so I'm trying to come up with a way for the
link to go straight to the text. I thought you could do it with the
"#" symbol in some way, but apparently not.

Ron M.


Posted by Philip Ronan on June 2, 2005, 8:22 pm
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"Ron M." wrote:

> Thanks, Philip, but I really need an answer to the question, not an
> alternative approach.

Even if the answer to your question is "No"? I think you really *do* need an
alternative approach :-)

> I thought you could do it with the
> "#" symbol in some way, but apparently not.

Only if the document contains named anchors (<A name="...">) or elements
with id attributes (e.g., <H2 id="...">)

Do you have any control over the client browsers? If this is in a controlled
environment you might be able to fudge something together with Javascript.

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