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Phorm setting its own persistent cookie for most websites... WiW 04-06-2008
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Posted by WiW on April 6, 2008, 12:38 pm
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FYI: It appears that Phorm (a targeted advertising system which taps into
ISP networks) will be setting its own persistent cookie for most every
website the user visits. It appears as though the cookie may be named
"webwise". One technical description of the system and this aspect can
be found via:

http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2008/04/04/the-phorm-webwise-system/

or if you want to go straight to the report:

http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rnc1/080404phorm.pdf

For those unfamiliar with Phorm:

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&btnG=Search+News&q=Phorm
http://www.badphorm.co.uk

*sigh*



Posted by Jim Moe on April 6, 2008, 3:26 pm
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On 04/06/08 09:38 am, WiW wrote:
> FYI: It appears that Phorm (a targeted advertising system which taps into
> ISP networks) will be setting its own persistent cookie for most every
> website the user visits. It appears as though the cookie may be named
> "webwise". One technical description of the system and this aspect can
> be found via:
>
Firefox (and Seamonkey) allows you considerable control over how cookies
are managed. From accepting none at all, a whitelist or a blacklist of
sites, retained for the session or forever. Your choice.

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Posted by WiW on April 6, 2008, 5:48 pm
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> On 04/06/08 09:38 am, WiW wrote:
>> FYI: It appears that Phorm (a targeted advertising system which taps into
>> ISP networks) will be setting its own persistent cookie for most every
>> website the user visits. It appears as though the cookie may be named
>> "webwise". One technical description of the system and this aspect can
>> be found via:
>>
> Firefox (and Seamonkey) allows you considerable control over how cookies
> are managed. From accepting none at all, a whitelist or a blacklist of
> sites, retained for the session or forever. Your choice.

Your comment seems geared towards helping me, as a user, cope with the
system. While I appreciate that, I posted this here because there is a
potential issue for those of us who have websites. Namely, that this system
(and potentially others like it) will be setting cookies for our domains. Read
the report: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rnc1/080404phorm.pdf for the details.

Posted by Harlan Messinger on April 6, 2008, 9:28 pm
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WiW wrote:
>
>> On 04/06/08 09:38 am, WiW wrote:
>>> FYI: It appears that Phorm (a targeted advertising system which taps
>>> into
>>> ISP networks) will be setting its own persistent cookie for most every
>>> website the user visits. It appears as though the cookie may be named
>>> "webwise". One technical description of the system and this aspect can
>>> be found via:
>>>
>> Firefox (and Seamonkey) allows you considerable control over how cookies
>> are managed. From accepting none at all, a whitelist or a blacklist of
>> sites, retained for the session or forever. Your choice.
>
> Your comment seems geared towards helping me, as a user, cope with the
> system. While I appreciate that, I posted this here because there is a
> potential issue for those of us who have websites. Namely, that this
> system
> (and potentially others like it) will be setting cookies for our
> domains. Read
> the report: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rnc1/080404phorm.pdf for the details.

I'm stunned.

I also wondered whether maybe browsers don't set cookies from responses
with status codes not in the 200 series, but I ran a test and Firefox does.

I just finished e-mailing my congressman and both senators.

Posted by Jim Moe on April 8, 2008, 1:20 am
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On 04/06/08 02:48 pm, WiW wrote:
>>>
>> Firefox (and Seamonkey) allows you considerable control over how cookies
>> are managed. From accepting none at all, a whitelist or a blacklist of
>> sites, retained for the session or forever. Your choice.
>
> Your comment seems geared towards helping me, as a user, cope with the
> system.
>
I finally read it. Scary! It's a classic man-in-the-middle attack. While
I am sure this has marketeers and government spooks drooling, the whole
profiling aspect is creepy.
Apparently the only way to prevent it (so far) is to disallow cookies
completely.

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