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Posted by Waylen Gumbal on May 10, 2008, 12:48 pm
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Jürgen Exner wrote:
> > Jürgen Exner wrote:
> > > > Looks like somebody needs to learn what a signature is...
> > > Isn't it the part of a posting that is following the
> > > dash-dash-blank
> > > line? And that is supposed to be 4 lines max?
> > >
> > > Well, your's over 120+ lines and contained pretty much no
> > > information at all.
> > What are you talking about? His sig is only 2 lines long. Looks like
> > your reader is not setup correctly. If you don't want the text/html
> > portion then tell your reader you only want the text/plain only when
> > it encounters a multipart message.
> Multipart is a feature of EMail. This here is Usenet. There is no such
> thing as multipart in Usenet.
I thought it's UseNet ? I've seen many people make this point before
around here so I'm surprised a regular would make such a slip. Any
newbie would be tarred and feathered to high hell by now for doing that.
> Therefore anything following his signature delimiter line must be
> his signature.
Only if you look at the raw source of the message, but looking at raw
source is not what you would do, right? No, you would look at the
plain-text part of the message, which has a sig 2 lines long.
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Posted by Martijn Lievaart on May 10, 2008, 8:11 pm
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On Sat, 10 May 2008 09:48:46 -0700, Waylen Gumbal wrote:
>> Therefore anything following his signature delimiter line must be his
>> signature.
>
> Only if you look at the raw source of the message, but looking at raw
> source is not what you would do, right? No, you would look at the
> plain-text part of the message, which has a sig 2 lines long.
Uhm, no. Any serios newsreader does not "do" mime-multipart, so normally
reading the message does show a 120+ lines signature.
M4
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Posted by A. Sinan Unur on May 10, 2008, 8:19 am
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> Jürgen Exner wrote:
>>> Jürgen Exner wrote:
>>>> And you honestly believe your 120+ lines long signature (quoted in
>>>> full below)
>>> Looks like somebody needs to learn what a signature is...
>>
>> Isn't it the part of a posting that is following the dash-dash-blank
>> line? And that is supposed to be 4 lines max?
>>
>> Well, your's over 120+ lines and contained pretty much no information
>> at all.
>
> What are you talking about? His sig is only 2 lines long.
Here, what counts is not what you see but what gets transmitted.
> Looks like your reader is not setup correctly. If you don't want the
> text/html portion then tell your reader you only want the text/plain
> only when it encounters a multipart message.
Nope. Post plain text in text only groups.
Sinan
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Posted by Waylen Gumbal on May 10, 2008, 12:59 pm
Please log in for more thread options A. Sinan Unur wrote:
> Nope. Post plain text in text only groups.
Right. But let me pose this; In the 1980's and even in the 90's, this
was the way things were done, and a lot of it was for technical reasons,
right? Do those reasons still really exist? Bandwidth is cheap, screen
resolutions large, ram plentiful, HD sizes growing like there's no
tomorrow, so why use old tech to as a reason to prevent moving forward
in a medium such as UseNet ? Any modern news reader should be able to
easily handle multipart messages and at least basic HTML without
breaking a sweat, so why stifle innovation in the name of preserving old
20+ year old paradigms?
Is anyone still using an 80x25/50 column terminal? What real systems out
there don't have a GUI, I mean come on people, time to come out of the
past already. I'm not saying we should all post in HTML, I prefer plain
myself, but we should not be so afraid of posts that contain
HTML/multiparts. A good tool should be able to, at the very least, deal
with such posts as a user sees fit.
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Posted by A. Sinan Unur on May 10, 2008, 1:25 pm
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> A. Sinan Unur wrote:
>
>> Nope. Post plain text in text only groups.
>
...
> HTML without breaking a sweat, so why stifle innovation in the name of
> preserving old 20+ year old paradigms?
There is no innovation here. Yeah, there is an attempt to change
something but not all change qualifies as innovation. No one's cute
color scheme, liberal use of different font sizes, cute little graphics
provides any enhanced value to me. Frankly, if one cannot express your
programming question (and answers, hopefully, but you just seem to be
another incarnation of the poster whose only purpose here is to argue
against useful conventions rather than trying to help others with their
questions), then one does not belong in a technical group. Knitting or
gardening, maybe.
> Is anyone still using an 80x25/50 column terminal? What real systems
> out there don't have a GUI, I mean come on people, time to come out of
> the past already. I'm not saying we should all post in HTML, I prefer
> plain myself, but we should not be so afraid of posts that contain
> HTML/multiparts.
I am not afraid. Posting in anything other than plain text signals that
the poster is either ignorant or rude.
> A good tool should be able to, at the very least,
> deal with such posts as a user sees fit.
Yes, I have a good tool for that. Won't be seeing your messages again.
Sinan
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