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Pairing a Fabric Keyboard to a Motorola Q Andrew Morse 12-11-2006
Posted by Andrew Morse on December 11, 2006, 1:34 am
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I am attempting to pair a G-Tech fabric keyboard to a Motorola Q
smartphone via Bluetooth. The phone sees the keyboard, but when I go to
start the driver, nothing happens (except the driver crashing the
smartphone, if I try a second time). Here's a rough list of steps...

1. Turned on the fabric keyboard. The power LED was solid.
2. Activated Bluetooth on my Motorola Q.
3. Went to the Bluetooth Manager->Settings->Menu->Paired Devices choice.
From the "Menu", I selected "Add".
4. "Keyboard" appeared in the "Paired Devices" list. I selected it.
5. Motorola Q prompted me for a passkey. I entered 0000.
6. Opened the "Fabric Keyboard" program on the phone (version "Microsoft
Windows Mobile 2005 (Smartphone)", obtained from the g-techworld.com
website).
7. Selected "Connect?" from the Fabric Keyboard program. The LED on the
fabric keyboard began to blink.
8. After 1 to 2 minutes, the LED returned to solid, without connection
being made.

G-Tech's documentation suggests that some fiddling with COM port
settings may be necessary, but I can't seem to find anywhere where they
can be easily changed.

Has anyone had success pairing a fabric keyboard or a similar device to
a Motorola Q?



Posted by Bill Suckow [MS on December 11, 2006, 1:23 pm
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Hi Andrew,

The G-Tech fabric keyboard requires the use of a Bluetooth COM port, which
is a little buried in the connection settings. You should be able to create
one this way:

1) When pairing with the keyboard, be sure to enable the serial profile
(check the "serial" checkbox when selecting BT services while pairing)
2) Create an outgoing COM port for the keyboard (you should be able to do
this by going into start->settings->connections->Bluetooth->Menu->COM ports)
3) Start the fabric keyboard program and choose to connect

At this point your keyboard should connect and start working for you.

Best Regards,
-Bill

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.



"Andrew Morse" wrote:

> I am attempting to pair a G-Tech fabric keyboard to a Motorola Q
> smartphone via Bluetooth. The phone sees the keyboard, but when I go to
> start the driver, nothing happens (except the driver crashing the
> smartphone, if I try a second time). Here's a rough list of steps...
>
> 1. Turned on the fabric keyboard. The power LED was solid.
> 2. Activated Bluetooth on my Motorola Q.
> 3. Went to the Bluetooth Manager->Settings->Menu->Paired Devices choice.
> From the "Menu", I selected "Add".
> 4. "Keyboard" appeared in the "Paired Devices" list. I selected it.
> 5. Motorola Q prompted me for a passkey. I entered 0000.
> 6. Opened the "Fabric Keyboard" program on the phone (version "Microsoft
> Windows Mobile 2005 (Smartphone)", obtained from the g-techworld.com
> website).
> 7. Selected "Connect?" from the Fabric Keyboard program. The LED on the
> fabric keyboard began to blink.
> 8. After 1 to 2 minutes, the LED returned to solid, without connection
> being made.
>
> G-Tech's documentation suggests that some fiddling with COM port
> settings may be necessary, but I can't seem to find anywhere where they
> can be easily changed.
>
> Has anyone had success pairing a fabric keyboard or a similar device to
> a Motorola Q?
>
>
>

Posted by Andrew Morse on December 11, 2006, 7:03 pm
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Bill,

        Thanx for the reply. Your instructions seem straightforward enough,
except...

        I have no "Bluetooth" choice under Start->Settings->Connections. I
have choices for "Beam", "Proxy", "VPN", and "USB to PC". It is a
Windows 5.0 operating system, and I know that the Bluetooth functions,
because I have an Motorola H500 earpiece receiver which works very well.

        I also don't think I've been offered a "serial" choice when I've
attempted to pair in the past.

        Any suggestions? I haven't adopted too early, have I? :)

        -- Andrew

        

Bill Suckow [MSFT] wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
>
> The G-Tech fabric keyboard requires the use of a Bluetooth COM port, which
> is a little buried in the connection settings. You should be able to create
> one this way:
>
> 1) When pairing with the keyboard, be sure to enable the serial profile
> (check the "serial" checkbox when selecting BT services while pairing)
> 2) Create an outgoing COM port for the keyboard (you should be able to do
> this by going into start->settings->connections->Bluetooth->Menu->COM ports)
> 3) Start the fabric keyboard program and choose to connect
>
> At this point your keyboard should connect and start working for you.
>
> Best Regards,
> -Bill
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>
>
>
> "Andrew Morse" wrote:
>
>
>>I am attempting to pair a G-Tech fabric keyboard to a Motorola Q
>>smartphone via Bluetooth. The phone sees the keyboard, but when I go to
>>start the driver, nothing happens (except the driver crashing the
>>smartphone, if I try a second time). Here's a rough list of steps...
>>
>>1. Turned on the fabric keyboard. The power LED was solid.
>>2. Activated Bluetooth on my Motorola Q.
>>3. Went to the Bluetooth Manager->Settings->Menu->Paired Devices choice.
>> From the "Menu", I selected "Add".
>>4. "Keyboard" appeared in the "Paired Devices" list. I selected it.
>>5. Motorola Q prompted me for a passkey. I entered 0000.
>>6. Opened the "Fabric Keyboard" program on the phone (version "Microsoft
>>Windows Mobile 2005 (Smartphone)", obtained from the g-techworld.com
>>website).
>>7. Selected "Connect?" from the Fabric Keyboard program. The LED on the
>>fabric keyboard began to blink.
>>8. After 1 to 2 minutes, the LED returned to solid, without connection
>>being made.
>>
>>G-Tech's documentation suggests that some fiddling with COM port
>>settings may be necessary, but I can't seem to find anywhere where they
>>can be easily changed.
>>
>>Has anyone had success pairing a fabric keyboard or a similar device to
>>a Motorola Q?
>>
>>
>>

Posted by Bill Suckow [MS on December 11, 2006, 9:00 pm
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I tracked down a Q, and it looks like they've overridden the default
Microsoft Bluetooth control panel with a custom Bluetooth Manager from
Motorola (which is why it doesn't show up under connections). I'm not
familiar with this applet since it's 3rd party, but after toying around in it
for a bit it looks like they're making life a little easier by hiding which
Bluetooth profile each device is using.

Normally that'd be great, but in this case it's somewhat troublesome. The
issue is that the fabric keyboard doesn't use a standard Bluetooth HID
profile, it uses the serial profile. When the Bluetooth Manager is trying to
connect with a Bluetooth keyboard, it's looking for Bluetooth HID devices (I
think). But since the G-tech keyboard doesn't use BT HID, it won't work with
the Q's Bluetooth Manager. It needs to be configured as a Bluetooth serial
port device and have an outgoing COM port associated with it. Interestingly,
the Bluetooth Manager DOES have a setting for outgoing COM ports (see
Bluetooth Manager->Settings->Menu->Serial Ports), but I see no way to pair it
with the keyboard and have it enable the serial profile.

Anyway, to sum up, since Moto's using a custom Bluetooth configuration
utility I'm afraid I'm not going to be much more help here. :( You might be
able to track down a way to use the Q's BT manager to pair with a serial
device at:

http://www.motoqwiki.com/index.php?title=Bluetooth_Pairing

Good luck!

-Bill

"Andrew Morse" wrote:

> Bill,
>
>         Thanx for the reply. Your instructions seem straightforward enough,
> except...
>
>         I have no "Bluetooth" choice under Start->Settings->Connections. I
> have choices for "Beam", "Proxy", "VPN", and "USB to PC". It is a
> Windows 5.0 operating system, and I know that the Bluetooth functions,
> because I have an Motorola H500 earpiece receiver which works very well.
>
>         I also don't think I've been offered a "serial" choice when I've
> attempted to pair in the past.
>
>         Any suggestions? I haven't adopted too early, have I? :)
>
>         -- Andrew
>
>         
>
> Bill Suckow [MSFT] wrote:
> > Hi Andrew,
> >
> > The G-Tech fabric keyboard requires the use of a Bluetooth COM port, which
> > is a little buried in the connection settings. You should be able to create
> > one this way:
> >
> > 1) When pairing with the keyboard, be sure to enable the serial profile
> > (check the "serial" checkbox when selecting BT services while pairing)
> > 2) Create an outgoing COM port for the keyboard (you should be able to do
> > this by going into start->settings->connections->Bluetooth->Menu->COM ports)
> > 3) Start the fabric keyboard program and choose to connect
> >
> > At this point your keyboard should connect and start working for you.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > -Bill
> >
> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Andrew Morse" wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I am attempting to pair a G-Tech fabric keyboard to a Motorola Q
> >>smartphone via Bluetooth. The phone sees the keyboard, but when I go to
> >>start the driver, nothing happens (except the driver crashing the
> >>smartphone, if I try a second time). Here's a rough list of steps...
> >>
> >>1. Turned on the fabric keyboard. The power LED was solid.
> >>2. Activated Bluetooth on my Motorola Q.
> >>3. Went to the Bluetooth Manager->Settings->Menu->Paired Devices choice.
> >> From the "Menu", I selected "Add".
> >>4. "Keyboard" appeared in the "Paired Devices" list. I selected it.
> >>5. Motorola Q prompted me for a passkey. I entered 0000.
> >>6. Opened the "Fabric Keyboard" program on the phone (version "Microsoft
> >>Windows Mobile 2005 (Smartphone)", obtained from the g-techworld.com
> >>website).
> >>7. Selected "Connect?" from the Fabric Keyboard program. The LED on the
> >>fabric keyboard began to blink.
> >>8. After 1 to 2 minutes, the LED returned to solid, without connection
> >>being made.
> >>
> >>G-Tech's documentation suggests that some fiddling with COM port
> >>settings may be necessary, but I can't seem to find anywhere where they
> >>can be easily changed.
> >>
> >>Has anyone had success pairing a fabric keyboard or a similar device to
> >>a Motorola Q?
> >>
> >>
> >>
>

Posted by Andrew Morse on December 12, 2006, 10:33 am
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        Thanx again Bill. I've got e-mails into Motorola and my carrier, and a
phone call into G-Tech tech support. I'll let you know if anybody comes
up with a workaround.

        -- Andrew

Bill Suckow [MSFT] wrote:
> I tracked down a Q, and it looks like they've overridden the default
> Microsoft Bluetooth control panel with a custom Bluetooth Manager from
> Motorola (which is why it doesn't show up under connections). I'm not
> familiar with this applet since it's 3rd party, but after toying around in it
> for a bit it looks like they're making life a little easier by hiding which
> Bluetooth profile each device is using.
>
> Normally that'd be great, but in this case it's somewhat troublesome. The
> issue is that the fabric keyboard doesn't use a standard Bluetooth HID
> profile, it uses the serial profile. When the Bluetooth Manager is trying to
> connect with a Bluetooth keyboard, it's looking for Bluetooth HID devices (I
> think). But since the G-tech keyboard doesn't use BT HID, it won't work with
> the Q's Bluetooth Manager. It needs to be configured as a Bluetooth serial
> port device and have an outgoing COM port associated with it. Interestingly,
> the Bluetooth Manager DOES have a setting for outgoing COM ports (see
> Bluetooth Manager->Settings->Menu->Serial Ports), but I see no way to pair it
> with the keyboard and have it enable the serial profile.
>
> Anyway, to sum up, since Moto's using a custom Bluetooth configuration
> utility I'm afraid I'm not going to be much more help here. :( You might be
> able to track down a way to use the Q's BT manager to pair with a serial
> device at:
>
> http://www.motoqwiki.com/index.php?title=Bluetooth_Pairing
>
> Good luck!
>
> -Bill
>
> "Andrew Morse" wrote:
>
>
>>Bill,
>>
>>        Thanx for the reply. Your instructions seem straightforward enough,
>>except...
>>
>>        I have no "Bluetooth" choice under Start->Settings->Connections. I
>>have choices for "Beam", "Proxy", "VPN", and "USB to PC". It is a
>>Windows 5.0 operating system, and I know that the Bluetooth functions,
>>because I have an Motorola H500 earpiece receiver which works very well.
>>
>>        I also don't think I've been offered a "serial" choice when I've
>>attempted to pair in the past.
>>
>>        Any suggestions? I haven't adopted too early, have I? :)
>>
>>        -- Andrew
>>
>>        
>>
>>Bill Suckow [MSFT] wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Andrew,
>>>
>>>The G-Tech fabric keyboard requires the use of a Bluetooth COM port, which
>>>is a little buried in the connection settings. You should be able to create
>>>one this way:
>>>
>>>1) When pairing with the keyboard, be sure to enable the serial profile
>>>(check the "serial" checkbox when selecting BT services while pairing)
>>>2) Create an outgoing COM port for the keyboard (you should be able to do
>>>this by going into start->settings->connections->Bluetooth->Menu->COM ports)
>>>3) Start the fabric keyboard program and choose to connect
>>>
>>>At this point your keyboard should connect and start working for you.
>>>
>>>Best Regards,
>>>-Bill
>>>
>>>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Andrew Morse" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I am attempting to pair a G-Tech fabric keyboard to a Motorola Q
>>>>smartphone via Bluetooth. The phone sees the keyboard, but when I go to
>>>>start the driver, nothing happens (except the driver crashing the
>>>>smartphone, if I try a second time). Here's a rough list of steps...
>>>>
>>>>1. Turned on the fabric keyboard. The power LED was solid.
>>>>2. Activated Bluetooth on my Motorola Q.
>>>>3. Went to the Bluetooth Manager->Settings->Menu->Paired Devices choice.
>>>>From the "Menu", I selected "Add".
>>>>4. "Keyboard" appeared in the "Paired Devices" list. I selected it.
>>>>5. Motorola Q prompted me for a passkey. I entered 0000.
>>>>6. Opened the "Fabric Keyboard" program on the phone (version "Microsoft
>>>>Windows Mobile 2005 (Smartphone)", obtained from the g-techworld.com
>>>>website).
>>>>7. Selected "Connect?" from the Fabric Keyboard program. The LED on the
>>>>fabric keyboard began to blink.
>>>>8. After 1 to 2 minutes, the LED returned to solid, without connection
>>>>being made.
>>>>
>>>>G-Tech's documentation suggests that some fiddling with COM port
>>>>settings may be necessary, but I can't seem to find anywhere where they
>>>>can be easily changed.
>>>>
>>>>Has anyone had success pairing a fabric keyboard or a similar device to
>>>>a Motorola Q?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>

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