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PERL to mean what 'perldoc perl' says is wrong? (was: Re: perl should be improved and perl6) Gordon Etly 04-14-2008
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Posted by Uri Guttman on April 16, 2008, 3:17 am
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SB> Uri Guttman wrote:

SB> } why don't you just shut up about this already like you said you

SB> If you bothered to read the thread, he replied to someone who
SB> replied before he did, so why focus this one single individual,
SB> and waste a perfectly good post displaying you are incapable of
SB> opening your mind to other possibilities instead of acting as if
SB> all the FAQs, et al, are carved in granite.

he was continuing when he said he wouldn't. he singled himself out.

SB> } all the people who want to use PERL are those who never help
SB> } others here.

SB> That's a rather broad statement, don'cha think? There is a certain
SB> logic in rewriting `Practical Extraction and Report Language` as
SB> `PERL` which is a common form of writing a term whose characters
SB> each have a documented meaning, which would appear to be the case.

and did you address my point? do you help people here? i don't recall
your name on many posts. it is simple. you help with real perl
questions, you have a right to say stuff about this group.

SB> } when is the last time you posted an answer to any perl
SB> } questions here? you have no standing in the perl community (here or
SB> } elsewhere) so why should your opinion matter?

SB> Why should the opinion of a pompous ass who can't even correctly
SB> use a shift key at the start of a sentence and for proper nouns?
SB> You don't even write "Perl" properly. Second, wtf makes you the
SB> one who decides who is allowed to start a discussion? Obviously
SB> you don't approve of the subject matter, well too bad. I seriously
SB> doubt you have the necessary information to determine where and if
SB> someone has any "standing", nor are you any more or less special
SB> than anyone else so either get with it or kindly stfu.

ooh, such wit and wisdom. i am not the only one with the attitude about
who can say stuff and who can't. the rule is as i stated, you help with
perl questions, you can say stuff. you don't help so your comments are
moot (and should be muted).

uri

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Posted by Jim Cochrane on April 16, 2008, 5:53 am
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>
> SB> Uri Guttman wrote:
>
> SB> } why don't you just shut up about this already like you said you
>
> SB> If you bothered to read the thread, he replied to someone who
> SB> replied before he did, so why focus this one single individual,
> SB> and waste a perfectly good post displaying you are incapable of
> SB> opening your mind to other possibilities instead of acting as if
> SB> all the FAQs, et al, are carved in granite.
>
> he was continuing when he said he wouldn't. he singled himself out.
>
> SB> } all the people who want to use PERL are those who never help
> SB> } others here.
>
> SB> That's a rather broad statement, don'cha think? There is a certain
> SB> logic in rewriting `Practical Extraction and Report Language` as
> SB> `PERL` which is a common form of writing a term whose characters
> SB> each have a documented meaning, which would appear to be the case.
>
> and did you address my point? do you help people here? i don't recall
> your name on many posts. it is simple. you help with real perl
> questions, you have a right to say stuff about this group.
>
> SB> } when is the last time you posted an answer to any perl
> SB> } questions here? you have no standing in the perl community (here or
> SB> } elsewhere) so why should your opinion matter?
>
> SB> Why should the opinion of a pompous ass who can't even correctly
> SB> use a shift key at the start of a sentence and for proper nouns?
> SB> You don't even write "Perl" properly. Second, wtf makes you the
> SB> one who decides who is allowed to start a discussion? Obviously
> SB> you don't approve of the subject matter, well too bad. I seriously
> SB> doubt you have the necessary information to determine where and if
> SB> someone has any "standing", nor are you any more or less special
> SB> than anyone else so either get with it or kindly stfu.

I just read this paragraph in this post, having skipped it in the
original post. Ironically, it sounds to me a little like it may have
been written by a pompous ass[1].


[1] :-)

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Posted by Stephan Bour on April 16, 2008, 1:07 pm
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Uri Guttman wrote:
} >
} > Uri Guttman wrote:
} >
} > } why don't you just shut up about this already like you said you
} >
} > If you bothered to read the thread, he replied to someone who
} > replied before he did, so why focus this one single individual,
} > and waste a perfectly good post displaying you are incapable of
} > opening your mind to other possibilities instead of acting as if
} > all the FAQs, et al, are carved in granite.
}
} he was continuing when he said he wouldn't. he singled himself out.


So what? He was answering someone else, what concern is it of yours? Is
someone forcing you to read everything that comes down the pipe? Are you
unable to killfile a thread?

} > } all the people who want to use PERL are those who never help
} > } others here.
} >
} > That's a rather broad statement, don'cha think? There is a certain
} > logic in rewriting `Practical Extraction and Report Language` as
} > `PERL` which is a common form of writing a term whose characters
} > each have a documented meaning, which would appear to be the case.
}
} and did you address my point?

I didn't know you had one.

} do you help people here? i don't recall your name on many posts.

That's not what is or was of question, and is utterly irrelevant. Stop
invoking the straw-man.

} it is simple. you help with real perl questions, you have a
} right to say stuff about this group.

And who decides who say what? You? I think not. Everyone has a right to post
in a public news group, and you have no right what so ever to dictate
otherwise.


Stephan.



Posted by Uri Guttman on April 16, 2008, 1:42 pm
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SB> Uri Guttman wrote:
SB> } >
SB> } > Uri Guttman wrote:
SB> } >
SB> } > } why don't you just shut up about this already like you said you
SB> } >
SB> } > If you bothered to read the thread, he replied to someone who
SB> } > replied before he did, so why focus this one single individual,
SB> } > and waste a perfectly good post displaying you are incapable of
SB> } > opening your mind to other possibilities instead of acting as if
SB> } > all the FAQs, et al, are carved in granite.
SB> }
SB> } he was continuing when he said he wouldn't. he singled himself out.


SB> So what? He was answering someone else, what concern is it of yours? Is
SB> someone forcing you to read everything that comes down the pipe? Are you
SB> unable to killfile a thread?

and you? i am more concerned about proper perl training and answers. so
when i see PERL used, i jump in. i also help out on many other questions
here. do you?

SB> } > } all the people who want to use PERL are those who never help
SB> } > } others here.
SB> } >
SB> } > That's a rather broad statement, don'cha think? There is a certain
SB> } > logic in rewriting `Practical Extraction and Report Language` as
SB> } > `PERL` which is a common form of writing a term whose characters
SB> } > each have a documented meaning, which would appear to be the case.
SB> }
SB> } and did you address my point?

SB> I didn't know you had one.

about your not helping. all you have done is jump in late into a stupid
flame war and on the wrong side.

SB> } do you help people here? i don't recall your name on many posts.

SB> That's not what is or was of question, and is utterly irrelevant. Stop
SB> invoking the straw-man.

well, that shows how much you know. those who help have a say
here. those who don't are not listened too. notice how all the PERL
backers are not regular helpers here? that is the whole point. they
aren't listening to what the community says about the names perl, Perl
and PERL.

SB> } it is simple. you help with real perl questions, you have a
SB> } right to say stuff about this group.

SB> And who decides who say what? You? I think not. Everyone has a
SB> right to post in a public news group, and you have no right what
SB> so ever to dictate otherwise.

that comment is so common among those who never help here. hmm, that
point again! so shut up unless you actually answer perl questions. that
IS the reason for this group. flaming about PERL is not helping.

and i can dictate all i want since i am the ruler of perl in my
household. you want democracy, go learn python!

you have been insulted. please crawl back into your cave and be quiet
now.

uri

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Posted by Stephan Bour on April 16, 2008, 2:49 pm
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Uri Guttman wrote:
}
} > Uri Guttman wrote:
} > } >
} > } > Uri Guttman wrote:

...
} > } > } all the people who want to use PERL are those who never help
} > } > } others here.
} > } >
} > } > That's a rather broad statement, don'cha think? There is a
} > } > certain logic in rewriting `Practical Extraction and Report
} > } > Language` as `PERL` which is a common form of writing a term
} > } > whose characters each have a documented meaning, which would
} > } > appear to be the case. }
} > } >
} > } and did you address my point?
}
} > I didn't know you had one.
}
} about your not helping. all you have done is jump in late into a
} stupid flame war and on the wrong side.

1) That's not what this is about nor is it a requirement to be able to
comment. All that is required to comment on something is free will, whether
you agree with that or not.

2) It was never a flame way until people like you jumped in and made it one
out of your own distaste for the subject.

...
} so shut up unless you actually answer perl questions.
} that IS the reason for this group. flaming about PERL is not helping.

The only one rubbing sticks together appears to be you, sir. All I saw
coming from Mr. Etly's direction was a simple point. Any form of attack has
been coming from you and some others who side with your point of view. It's
a shame you refuse to see any other views than your own.

} and i can dictate all i want since i am the ruler of perl in my
} household. you want democracy, go learn python!

1) I thought it was `Perl` ? Please make up your mind?

2) A news group is no individuals house. Then again this makes about is much
sense as anything else you spew.


Stephan.



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