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PERL to mean what 'perldoc perl' says is wrong? (was: Re: perl should be improved and perl6) Gordon Etly 04-14-2008
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Posted by Gordon Etly on April 14, 2008, 11:37 pm
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 Jim Cochrane wrote:
>> wrote: <snip>
>>>
>>> Actually, "I should of course said" is still wrong - missing a verb
>>> component - should be: "I should of course have said".
>>>
>> I think that sentence is also better for a little appropriate
>> punctuation: "I should, of course, have said". The commas also help
>> guide you to the correct verb choice, instead of getting confused as
>> to whether "of" is your verb.
>
> Yes, I thought of that after posting; thanks for the correction.
>
> (I better stop replying now before we get too far sidetracked from
> perl vs. Perl vs. PERL vs. pERL .......)


Just for the record, that was never my plight. But alas it is no use, I
see, given of all the closed-mindedness abound; what ever happened to
free thinking? Not one soul had actually addressed the question itself:
why is it wrong to use PERL if 'perldoc perl' gives it a meaning that
can be shortened to just "PERL"? I don't expect a straight answer given
what's already transpired, and this is the last time I will ask it.

--
G.Etly



Posted by Glenn Jackman on April 15, 2008, 9:09 am
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 At 2008-04-14 11:37PM, "Gordon Etly" wrote:
> why is it wrong to use PERL if 'perldoc perl' gives it a meaning that
> can be shortened to just "PERL"? I don't expect a straight answer given
> what's already transpired, and this is the last time I will ask it.

That's too bad. It was very entertaining watching the struggle between
the immovable object and the irresistable force. You can decide who
fits which role.

--
Glenn Jackman
"If there is anything the nonconformist hates worse than a conformist,
it's another nonconformist who doesn't conform to the prevailing
standard of nonconformity." -- Bill Vaughan

Posted by Achim Peters on April 15, 2008, 9:25 am
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Gordon Etly schrieb:
> Jim Cochrane wrote:
>> (I better stop replying now before we get too far sidetracked from
>> perl vs. Perl vs. PERL vs. pERL .......)
>
>
> Just for the record, that was never my plight. But alas it is no use, I
> see, given of all the closed-mindedness abound; what ever happened to
> free thinking? Not one soul had actually addressed the question itself:
> why is it wrong to use PERL if 'perldoc perl' gives it a meaning that
> can be shortened to just "PERL"?

Not only that. With 'perldoc perl' in perl 5.8.2 I indeed do get three
different spellings ("perl", "Perl", _and_ "PERL"):

| PERL(1) perl v5.8.2 (2004-02-16) PERL(1)
|
[...]
|
| perl - [...]
|
| If you're new to Perl, [...]

;-)

Bye
Achim

Posted by Chris Mattern on April 15, 2008, 10:41 am
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> Gordon Etly schrieb:
>> Jim Cochrane wrote:
>>> (I better stop replying now before we get too far sidetracked from
>>> perl vs. Perl vs. PERL vs. pERL .......)
>>
>>
>> Just for the record, that was never my plight. But alas it is no use, I
>> see, given of all the closed-mindedness abound; what ever happened to
>> free thinking? Not one soul had actually addressed the question itself:
>> why is it wrong to use PERL if 'perldoc perl' gives it a meaning that
>> can be shortened to just "PERL"?
>
> Not only that. With 'perldoc perl' in perl 5.8.2 I indeed do get three
> different spellings ("perl", "Perl", _and_ "PERL"):
>
>| PERL(1) perl v5.8.2 (2004-02-16) PERL(1)
>|
> [...]
>|
>| perl - [...]
>|
>| If you're new to Perl, [...]
>
> ;-)
>
No, the usage of "perl" and "Perl" is correct. "perl" refers to
the program, which is what the first line is describing. "Perl"
means the language in the abstract, which is what the second line
is talking about (it's not worried about whether you're new to
5.8.2, but about whether you're new to Perl as a whole).

--
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Posted by Gordon Etly on April 15, 2008, 11:40 am
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Chris Mattern wrote:
>> Gordon Etly schrieb:
>>> Jim Cochrane wrote:
>>>> (I better stop replying now before we get too far sidetracked from
>>>> perl vs. Perl vs. PERL vs. pERL .......)
>>>
>>>
>>> Just for the record, that was never my plight. But alas it is no
>>> use, I see, given of all the closed-mindedness abound; what ever
>>> happened to free thinking? Not one soul had actually addressed the
>>> question itself: why is it wrong to use PERL if 'perldoc perl'
>>> gives it a meaning that can be shortened to just "PERL"?
>>
>> Not only that. With 'perldoc perl' in perl 5.8.2 I indeed do get
>> three different spellings ("perl", "Perl", _and_ "PERL"):
>>
>>> PERL(1) perl v5.8.2 (2004-02-16)
>>> PERL(1)
>>>
>> [...]
>>>
>>> perl - [...]
>>>
>>> If you're new to Perl, [...]
>>
>> ;-)
>>
> No, the usage of "perl" and "Perl" is correct. "perl" refers to
> the program, which is what the first line is describing. "Perl"
> means the language in the abstract, which is what the second line
> is talking about

Yes, we all know that, and that is not the point I have tried to make.

What is so wrong with adding to that list,

"PERL" refers to "Practical Extraction and Report Language" ?

That IS how acronyms work, whether people like you want to admit it or
not.

--
G.Etly



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