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"Martian Soils Point to Ancient Acid Ocean--And a Dearth of Life." David Williams 10-30-2006
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Posted by David Williams on October 30, 2006, 10:33 am
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-> Martian Soils Point to Ancient Acid Ocean--And a Dearth of Life.
-> "Despite being separated by thousands of kilometers, Martian soils from
-> Gusev Crater and Meridiani Planum have proved broadly similar in
-> parts--rich in chlorine and sulfur. Recent high-precision measurements
-> have shown that phosphorus--the critical energy carrier in all known
-> forms of Earth life--is equally abundant in such patches of Martian
-> dirt. And the only explanation for such similar soils in disparate
-> locations is a large, acidic ocean, according to a new paper published
-> today in the November issue of Geology."
-> http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa003&articleID=000A1326-800A-153E-8

-> The researchers discount the possibility of life because on Earth the
-> phosphorus found would be absorbed by life.

Life on Earth doesn't launch phosphorus into another dimension. It uses
the element, but doesn't destroy it. When an organism dies, the
phosphorus it contains returns to the environment. So life has no
effect on the overall concentration of phosphorus, and measuring the
concentration has no impact on the probability that life is or was
present.

The text you quoted does not say anything about the probability of life
on Mars. It does say that phosphorus is useful to Earth-life, and that
phosphorus is present on Mars. But its main point is that the soils at
Meridiani and Gusev have very similar compositions, which may indicate
that a large ancient ocean covered both sites. This would make ancient
Mars a much more watery world than has previously been thought.

dow

Posted by rgregoryclark on October 30, 2006, 12:22 pm
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David Williams wrote:
> -> Martian Soils Point to Ancient Acid Ocean--And a Dearth of Life.
> -> "Despite being separated by thousands of kilometers, Martian soils from
> -> Gusev Crater and Meridiani Planum have proved broadly similar in
> -> parts--rich in chlorine and sulfur. Recent high-precision measurements
> -> have shown that phosphorus--the critical energy carrier in all known
> -> forms of Earth life--is equally abundant in such patches of Martian
> -> dirt. And the only explanation for such similar soils in disparate
> -> locations is a large, acidic ocean, according to a new paper published
> -> today in the November issue of Geology."
> -> http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa003&articleID=000A1326-800A-153E-8
>
> -> The researchers discount the possibility of life because on Earth the
> -> phosphorus found would be absorbed by life.
>
> Life on Earth doesn't launch phosphorus into another dimension. It uses
> the element, but doesn't destroy it. When an organism dies, the
> phosphorus it contains returns to the environment. So life has no
> effect on the overall concentration of phosphorus, and measuring the
> concentration has no impact on the probability that life is or was
> present.
>
> The text you quoted does not say anything about the probability of life
> on Mars. It does say that phosphorus is useful to Earth-life, and that
> phosphorus is present on Mars. But its main point is that the soils at
> Meridiani and Gusev have very similar compositions, which may indicate
> that a large ancient ocean covered both sites. This would make ancient
> Mars a much more watery world than has previously been thought.
>
> dow

In the various news releases from the authors of the research paper,
they suggest the concentrations of phosphorus seen would not be
expected if the oceans contained life.
I haven't seen the full paper, but I gather they are arguing the
phosphorus concentrations and ratios are the same at the two widely
separated sites because there was a large scale ocean present AND
because this phosphorus was floating *freely* in the waters.


Bob Clark


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