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Jumping link on Firefox laredotornado 11-29-2006
Posted by laredotornado on November 29, 2006, 8:08 pm
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Hi,

On the latest version of PC Firefox, I am noticing some strange
behavior. If you look at this page

http://remanresource.com/home.php

and click on the "View Demo" link towards the bottom, you'll notice the
first time you click on the link, the link moves to a different place
on the page. The second click yields the right behavior. However, it
does not do this on IE. What gives?

Thanks, - Dave


Posted by Beauregard T. Shagnasty on November 29, 2006, 11:48 pm
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laredotornado@zipmail.com wrote:

> On the latest version of PC Firefox, I am noticing some strange
> behavior. If you look at this page
>
> http://remanresource.com/home.php
>
> and click on the "View Demo" link towards the bottom, you'll notice
> the first time you click on the link, the link moves to a different
> place on the page. The second click yields the right behavior.
> However, it does not do this on IE. What gives?

After a quick glance at your code, perhaps the reason is that it's in a
table, nested six or seven deep. That's a guess. I'm glad I don't have
to maintain that page.

--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

Posted by Ed Seedhouse on November 30, 2006, 12:26 am
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On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 04:48:46 GMT, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"

>laredotornado@zipmail.com wrote:
>
>> On the latest version of PC Firefox, I am noticing some strange
>> behavior. If you look at this page
>>
>> http://remanresource.com/home.php
>>

>After a quick glance at your code, perhaps the reason is that it's in a
>table, nested six or seven deep. That's a guess. I'm glad I don't have
>to maintain that page.

Since the Doctype declaration will leave all browsers in "quirks" mode
different browsers should be expected to display the page differently.
Since the W3C validator throws dozens of errors no browser can be
expected to apply CSS rules in any consistent way since CSS rules are
defined for *valid* markup only. It's amazing it looks anything close
to the same way in different browsers.

So the anser to the OP's question is "Because your page is so badly
written that no particular result can be anticipated and you get what
you get. If you want consistent cross-browser display you need to
re-write the page in valid markup with a Doctype that will trigger
standards mode on browsers. Sufficient resources to enable you to
learn how to do that are available on the web. Fire up google and start
searching."




Posted by boclair on November 30, 2006, 1:38 am
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Ed Seedhouse wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 04:48:46 GMT, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
>
>> laredotornado@zipmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> On the latest version of PC Firefox, I am noticing some strange
>>> behavior. If you look at this page
>>>
>>> http://remanresource.com/home.php
>>>
>
>> After a quick glance at your code, perhaps the reason is that it's in a
>> table, nested six or seven deep. That's a guess. I'm glad I don't have
>> to maintain that page.
>
> Since the Doctype declaration will leave all browsers in "quirks" mode
> different browsers should be expected to display the page differently.
> Since the W3C validator throws dozens of errors no browser can be
> expected to apply CSS rules in any consistent way since CSS rules are
> defined for *valid* markup only. It's amazing it looks anything close
> to the same way in different browsers.
>
> So the anser to the OP's question is "Because your page is so badly
> written that no particular result can be anticipated and you get what
> you get."

To the above, add poor method.

The menu styling is in a style block in the body. Having links
dependent has major disadvantages.

Louise

Posted by laredotornado on November 30, 2006, 5:53 pm
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Most of the validation errors are complaining about this block of code

<object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000"
codebase="http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=8,0,0,0"
width="520" height="320" id="RR_interface" align="middle">
<param name="allowScriptAccess" value="sameDomain" />
<param name="wmode" value="transparent">
<param name="movie" value="RR_interface.swf" /><param name="quality"
value="high" /><param name="bgcolor" value="#ffffff" /><embed
src="RR_interface.swf" wmode="transparent" quality="high"
bgcolor="#ffffff" width="520" height="320" name="RR_interface"
align="middle" allowScriptAccess="sameDomain"
type="application/x-shockwave-flash"
pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" />
</object>

but this comes from our trusted frirends at Macromedia. Without it, I
couldn't play the flash movie cross-browser. If someone knows a way to
play the movie that also passes validation, I'm grateful.

Thanks, -

boclair wrote:
> Ed Seedhouse wrote:
> > On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 04:48:46 GMT, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
> >
> >> laredotornado@zipmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >>> On the latest version of PC Firefox, I am noticing some strange
> >>> behavior. If you look at this page
> >>>
> >>> http://remanresource.com/home.php
> >>>
> >
> >> After a quick glance at your code, perhaps the reason is that it's in a
> >> table, nested six or seven deep. That's a guess. I'm glad I don't have
> >> to maintain that page.
> >
> > Since the Doctype declaration will leave all browsers in "quirks" mode
> > different browsers should be expected to display the page differently.
> > Since the W3C validator throws dozens of errors no browser can be
> > expected to apply CSS rules in any consistent way since CSS rules are
> > defined for *valid* markup only. It's amazing it looks anything close
> > to the same way in different browsers.
> >
> > So the anser to the OP's question is "Because your page is so badly
> > written that no particular result can be anticipated and you get what
> > you get."
>
> To the above, add poor method.
>
> The menu styling is in a style block in the body. Having links
> dependent has major disadvantages.
>
> Louise


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