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Is there malware on my Server? John Kotuby 04-23-2008
Posted by John Kotuby on April 23, 2008, 2:43 pm
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In the event log under Security, on our remote leased dedicated Web Server I
have just noticed multiple failed logon attempts that go back about 3 weeks.
They are all like the one I am showing below:

Date: 04/23/2008 Source: Security
Time: 10:02:34 AM Category: Account logon
Type: Failure Aud Event ID: 680
User: NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM
Computer: LUNARPAG-SEOGSA

Logon attempt by: MICROSOFT_AUTHENTICATION_PACKAGE_V1_0
Logon account: administrador
Source Workstation: TMYFREE5005
Error Code: 0xC0000064

Other error codes have been 0xc000006A.

At first I thought it was the hosting company support staff trying to log
onto our server. But they replied that since we don't have "managed hosting"
it would not be their staff and it is probably a hacker. Well that is very
disconcerting. I told them it looked like the attacks were coming from
within their network because no "remote service" appears to be mentioned in
any of the failure details. They all come from the SYSTEM account and the
Source Workstation name keeps changing, although I have seen some repeats.

Now upon closer inspection, it seems as if maybe the attacks are orginating
from the Server itself...that is just a guess.

I have disabled the Administrator account.
About 3 months ago we were compromised by a hacker from South Vietnam. I
thought I cleaned all the junk that was left from that attack. Maybe that is
not the case.
At that time I disallowed Terminal Server connections by Administrator
account and changed the password.

Can anyone shed some light on this behavior? I am not a network
administrator and I am having trouble gettting help from the hosting
company. Yes I am looking to change Hosting companies, but that would
require a lot of time and I have prospective customers looking at our very
large ASP.NET application starting tomorrow.

Is there any way that I might track down the real source of these logon
attempts?

Help...

Any input would be appreciated.



Posted by Meinolf Weber on April 23, 2008, 3:18 pm
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Hello John,

You mentioned you were hacked some time ago. So the first step after that
should/must be a complete reinstall of your system WITHOUT any exception,
because you do not know about any backdoors, even if you think you have cleaned
it.

So, at least do it NOW and start from scratch. Nobody can provide you a secure
solution.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> In the event log under Security, on our remote leased dedicated Web
> Server I have just noticed multiple failed logon attempts that go back
> about 3 weeks. They are all like the one I am showing below:
>
> Date: 04/23/2008 Source: Security
> Time: 10:02:34 AM Category: Account logon
> Type: Failure Aud Event ID: 680
> User: NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM
> Computer: LUNARPAG-SEOGSA
> Logon attempt by: MICROSOFT_AUTHENTICATION_PACKAGE_V1_0
> Logon account: administrador
> Source Workstation: TMYFREE5005
> Error Code: 0xC0000064
> Other error codes have been 0xc000006A.
>
> At first I thought it was the hosting company support staff trying to
> log onto our server. But they replied that since we don't have
> "managed hosting" it would not be their staff and it is probably a
> hacker. Well that is very disconcerting. I told them it looked like
> the attacks were coming from within their network because no "remote
> service" appears to be mentioned in any of the failure details. They
> all come from the SYSTEM account and the Source Workstation name keeps
> changing, although I have seen some repeats.
>
> Now upon closer inspection, it seems as if maybe the attacks are
> orginating from the Server itself...that is just a guess.
>
> I have disabled the Administrator account.
> About 3 months ago we were compromised by a hacker from South Vietnam.
> I
> thought I cleaned all the junk that was left from that attack. Maybe
> that is
> not the case.
> At that time I disallowed Terminal Server connections by Administrator
> account and changed the password.
> Can anyone shed some light on this behavior? I am not a network
> administrator and I am having trouble gettting help from the hosting
> company. Yes I am looking to change Hosting companies, but that would
> require a lot of time and I have prospective customers looking at our
> very large ASP.NET application starting tomorrow.
>
> Is there any way that I might track down the real source of these
> logon attempts?
>
> Help...
>
> Any input would be appreciated.
>



Posted by Anthony [MVP] on April 23, 2008, 3:22 pm
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I am sorry but if your computer was hacked you really have to start again.
You must have a firewall, and that must block any connections except over
http, https etc.
Administrador indicates hack attempts to log on with the Administrator
account using NTLM.
How are you authenticating the web site?
Anthony,
http://www.airdesk.com



> In the event log under Security, on our remote leased dedicated Web Server
> I have just noticed multiple failed logon attempts that go back about 3
> weeks. They are all like the one I am showing below:
>
> Date: 04/23/2008 Source: Security
> Time: 10:02:34 AM Category: Account logon
> Type: Failure Aud Event ID: 680
> User: NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM
> Computer: LUNARPAG-SEOGSA
>
> Logon attempt by: MICROSOFT_AUTHENTICATION_PACKAGE_V1_0
> Logon account: administrador
> Source Workstation: TMYFREE5005
> Error Code: 0xC0000064
>
> Other error codes have been 0xc000006A.
>
> At first I thought it was the hosting company support staff trying to log
> onto our server. But they replied that since we don't have "managed
> hosting" it would not be their staff and it is probably a hacker. Well
> that is very disconcerting. I told them it looked like the attacks were
> coming from within their network because no "remote service" appears to be
> mentioned in any of the failure details. They all come from the SYSTEM
> account and the Source Workstation name keeps changing, although I have
> seen some repeats.
>
> Now upon closer inspection, it seems as if maybe the attacks are
> orginating from the Server itself...that is just a guess.
>
> I have disabled the Administrator account.
> About 3 months ago we were compromised by a hacker from South Vietnam. I
> thought I cleaned all the junk that was left from that attack. Maybe that
> is not the case.
> At that time I disallowed Terminal Server connections by Administrator
> account and changed the password.
>
> Can anyone shed some light on this behavior? I am not a network
> administrator and I am having trouble gettting help from the hosting
> company. Yes I am looking to change Hosting companies, but that would
> require a lot of time and I have prospective customers looking at our very
> large ASP.NET application starting tomorrow.
>
> Is there any way that I might track down the real source of these logon
> attempts?
>
> Help...
>
> Any input would be appreciated.
>
>



Posted by John Kotuby on April 25, 2008, 12:19 pm
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Anthony (and Meinolf),

Thanks for the response. The consensus seems to be that I must rebuild the
server from scratch.Wow, what an endeavor, considering the server is on the
other end of the USA about 3000 miles away and I would have to pay the ISP
for that time as well as considerable time to set up domains, DNS, etc.
myself.

With all that considered it may be time to make the move to a managed
hosting environment with a more robust database server. Then the new Hosting
company would do the setup and I would need to re-publish the databases and
the web applications.

About your question...How are you authenticating the web site?

In IIS Manager, Anonymous Access is checked and the login uses the
IUSER_SITENAME_ORG and whatever password was assigned by default. Also
Integrated Windows Authentication is checked. I never considered those
options. I write the code that makes the application work, including the
database access (which is mixed but uses SQL Server login from within the
application itself).

When a user surfs to the site, anyone is allowed to the "Login Page" but if
a validated UserID and PassWord is not entered the user can go no further. I
use SQL Server to store user logins and passwords.

When we do "re-make" the server, do you suggest a different form of web site
authentication? I am presuming you are referring to the settings in IIS
Manager.

Thanks

>I am sorry but if your computer was hacked you really have to start again.
> You must have a firewall, and that must block any connections except over
> http, https etc.
> Administrador indicates hack attempts to log on with the Administrator
> account using NTLM.
> How are you authenticating the web site?
> Anthony,
> http://www.airdesk.com
>
>
>
>> In the event log under Security, on our remote leased dedicated Web
>> Server I have just noticed multiple failed logon attempts that go back
>> about 3 weeks. They are all like the one I am showing below:
>>
>> Date: 04/23/2008 Source: Security
>> Time: 10:02:34 AM Category: Account logon
>> Type: Failure Aud Event ID: 680
>> User: NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM
>> Computer: LUNARPAG-SEOGSA
>>
>> Logon attempt by: MICROSOFT_AUTHENTICATION_PACKAGE_V1_0
>> Logon account: administrador
>> Source Workstation: TMYFREE5005
>> Error Code: 0xC0000064
>>
>> Other error codes have been 0xc000006A.
>>
>> At first I thought it was the hosting company support staff trying to log
>> onto our server. But they replied that since we don't have "managed
>> hosting" it would not be their staff and it is probably a hacker. Well
>> that is very disconcerting. I told them it looked like the attacks were
>> coming from within their network because no "remote service" appears to
>> be mentioned in any of the failure details. They all come from the SYSTEM
>> account and the Source Workstation name keeps changing, although I have
>> seen some repeats.
>>
>> Now upon closer inspection, it seems as if maybe the attacks are
>> orginating from the Server itself...that is just a guess.
>>
>> I have disabled the Administrator account.
>> About 3 months ago we were compromised by a hacker from South Vietnam. I
>> thought I cleaned all the junk that was left from that attack. Maybe that
>> is not the case.
>> At that time I disallowed Terminal Server connections by Administrator
>> account and changed the password.
>>
>> Can anyone shed some light on this behavior? I am not a network
>> administrator and I am having trouble gettting help from the hosting
>> company. Yes I am looking to change Hosting companies, but that would
>> require a lot of time and I have prospective customers looking at our
>> very large ASP.NET application starting tomorrow.
>>
>> Is there any way that I might track down the real source of these logon
>> attempts?
>>
>> Help...
>>
>> Any input would be appreciated.
>>
>>
>
>



Posted by Anthony [MVP] on April 26, 2008, 10:54 am
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John,
I was looking to see where the Windows authentication failure might have
come from. "Administrador" is a failed login attempt, which means you must
be exposing to the internet some means of authenticating to the server. It
is normal to have failed logon attempts like this when you expose an
authenticated service.
You may want to read up on the IIS Security documentation, which is quite
good:
http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/ace052a0-a713-423e-8e8c-4bf198f597b81033.mspx?mfr=true
Hope that helps,
Anthony
http://www.airdesk.co.uk




> Anthony (and Meinolf),
>
> Thanks for the response. The consensus seems to be that I must rebuild the
> server from scratch.Wow, what an endeavor, considering the server is on
> the other end of the USA about 3000 miles away and I would have to pay the
> ISP for that time as well as considerable time to set up domains, DNS,
> etc. myself.
>
> With all that considered it may be time to make the move to a managed
> hosting environment with a more robust database server. Then the new
> Hosting company would do the setup and I would need to re-publish the
> databases and the web applications.
>
> About your question...How are you authenticating the web site?
>
> In IIS Manager, Anonymous Access is checked and the login uses the
> IUSER_SITENAME_ORG and whatever password was assigned by default. Also
> Integrated Windows Authentication is checked. I never considered those
> options. I write the code that makes the application work, including the
> database access (which is mixed but uses SQL Server login from within the
> application itself).
>
> When a user surfs to the site, anyone is allowed to the "Login Page" but
> if a validated UserID and PassWord is not entered the user can go no
> further. I use SQL Server to store user logins and passwords.
>
> When we do "re-make" the server, do you suggest a different form of web
> site authentication? I am presuming you are referring to the settings in
> IIS Manager.
>
> Thanks
>
>>I am sorry but if your computer was hacked you really have to start again.
>> You must have a firewall, and that must block any connections except over
>> http, https etc.
>> Administrador indicates hack attempts to log on with the Administrator
>> account using NTLM.
>> How are you authenticating the web site?
>> Anthony,
>> http://www.airdesk.com
>>
>>
>>
>>> In the event log under Security, on our remote leased dedicated Web
>>> Server I have just noticed multiple failed logon attempts that go back
>>> about 3 weeks. They are all like the one I am showing below:
>>>
>>> Date: 04/23/2008 Source: Security
>>> Time: 10:02:34 AM Category: Account logon
>>> Type: Failure Aud Event ID: 680
>>> User: NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM
>>> Computer: LUNARPAG-SEOGSA
>>>
>>> Logon attempt by: MICROSOFT_AUTHENTICATION_PACKAGE_V1_0
>>> Logon account: administrador
>>> Source Workstation: TMYFREE5005
>>> Error Code: 0xC0000064
>>>
>>> Other error codes have been 0xc000006A.
>>>
>>> At first I thought it was the hosting company support staff trying to
>>> log onto our server. But they replied that since we don't have "managed
>>> hosting" it would not be their staff and it is probably a hacker. Well
>>> that is very disconcerting. I told them it looked like the attacks were
>>> coming from within their network because no "remote service" appears to
>>> be mentioned in any of the failure details. They all come from the
>>> SYSTEM account and the Source Workstation name keeps changing, although
>>> I have seen some repeats.
>>>
>>> Now upon closer inspection, it seems as if maybe the attacks are
>>> orginating from the Server itself...that is just a guess.
>>>
>>> I have disabled the Administrator account.
>>> About 3 months ago we were compromised by a hacker from South Vietnam. I
>>> thought I cleaned all the junk that was left from that attack. Maybe
>>> that is not the case.
>>> At that time I disallowed Terminal Server connections by Administrator
>>> account and changed the password.
>>>
>>> Can anyone shed some light on this behavior? I am not a network
>>> administrator and I am having trouble gettting help from the hosting
>>> company. Yes I am looking to change Hosting companies, but that would
>>> require a lot of time and I have prospective customers looking at our
>>> very large ASP.NET application starting tomorrow.
>>>
>>> Is there any way that I might track down the real source of these logon
>>> attempts?
>>>
>>> Help...
>>>
>>> Any input would be appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>



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