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Ipremove.exe? Vista firewall works protecting or not? Jerry 04-09-2008
Posted by Kayman on April 9, 2008, 8:12 pm
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 On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 14:41:00 -0700, Jerry wrote:

> ps, any change that you can also answer my second question about what i can
> expect of the windows firewall?

You are not going to find anything better than the Vista FW and Vista in
itself due to the advanced features the FW and Vista are using.

"Personal Firewalls" are mostly snake-oil.
http://www.samspade.org/d/firewalls.html

Jesper's Blogs-
At Least This Snake Oil Is Free.
http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2007/07/19/at-least-this-snake-oil-is-free.aspx
Windows Firewall: the best new security feature in Vista?
http://blogs.technet.com/jesper_johansson/archive/2006/05/01/426921.aspx

Exploring The Windows Firewall.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/issues/2007/06/VistaFirewall/default.aspx
"If you try to block outbound connections from a computer that’s already
compromised, how can you be sure that the computer is really doing what you
ask? The answer: you can’t. Outbound protection is security theater—it’s a
gimmick that only gives the impression of improving your security without
doing anything that actually does improve your security. This is why
outbound protection didn’t exist in the Windows XP firewall and why it
doesn’t exist in the Windows Vista™ firewall."

Tap into the Vista firewall's advanced configuration features
http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10877-6098592.html
"...once you discover the secret of accessing its advanced configuration
settings via the MMC snap-in, you'll find it to be far more configurable
and functional. At last, Windows comes with a sophisticated personal
firewall that can be used to set up outbound rules as well as inbound, with
the ability to customize rules to fit your precise needs."
Or
Configure Vista Firewall to support outbound packet filtering
http://searchwindowssecurity.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid45_gci1247138,00.html
Or
Vista Firewall Control (Free versions available).
Protects your applications from undesirable network incoming and outgoing
activity, controls applications internet access.
http://sphinx-soft.com/Vista/

Posted by Jerry on April 10, 2008, 1:44 am
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 Hello Kayman, thank you alot for these answers, i am gonna read those
articles, i finally get a better approach of windows.
i'll let you know if i would have any questions after reading.
Jerry

"Kayman" wrote:

> On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 14:41:00 -0700, Jerry wrote:
>
> > ps, any change that you can also answer my second question about what i can
> > expect of the windows firewall?
>
> You are not going to find anything better than the Vista FW and Vista in
> itself due to the advanced features the FW and Vista are using.
>
> "Personal Firewalls" are mostly snake-oil.
> http://www.samspade.org/d/firewalls.html
>
> Jesper's Blogs-
> At Least This Snake Oil Is Free.
>
http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2007/07/19/at-least-this-snake-oil-is-free.aspx
> Windows Firewall: the best new security feature in Vista?
> http://blogs.technet.com/jesper_johansson/archive/2006/05/01/426921.aspx
>
> Exploring The Windows Firewall.
>
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/issues/2007/06/VistaFirewall/default.aspx
> "If you try to block outbound connections from a computer that’s already
> compromised, how can you be sure that the computer is really doing what you
> ask? The answer: you can’t. Outbound protection is security theater—it’s
a
> gimmick that only gives the impression of improving your security without
> doing anything that actually does improve your security. This is why
> outbound protection didn’t exist in the Windows XP firewall and why it
> doesn’t exist in the Windows Vista™ firewall."
>
> Tap into the Vista firewall's advanced configuration features
> http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10877-6098592.html
> "...once you discover the secret of accessing its advanced configuration
> settings via the MMC snap-in, you'll find it to be far more configurable
> and functional. At last, Windows comes with a sophisticated personal
> firewall that can be used to set up outbound rules as well as inbound, with
> the ability to customize rules to fit your precise needs."
> Or
> Configure Vista Firewall to support outbound packet filtering
>
http://searchwindowssecurity.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid45_gci1247138,00.html
> Or
> Vista Firewall Control (Free versions available).
> Protects your applications from undesirable network incoming and outgoing
> activity, controls applications internet access.
> http://sphinx-soft.com/Vista/
>

Posted by Straight Talk on April 10, 2008, 1:06 am
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wrote:

>1 i got a message from the comodo firewall telling me that a trusted file
>wants to acces ipremove.exe. I cannot find any info about the ipremove.exe on
>the whole internet.. anybody familiar with this>

Here is your first problem: You are using crappy "security" solutions
you don't even understand.

Here is your second problem: Why on earth are you even wasting your
time worrying about what a *trusted* file wants to do? You are letting
commodos stupid pop-ups confuse you!

>2: Is the windows (vista) firewall indeed now also blocking as well incoming
>as outgoing traffic.

>This info i got from a dutch website and i donot know if
>that info is corect.

It is. Luckily, it's not doing this silly outbound application control
the way so called 3rd party firewalls do, though.

>Does this make if the info is correct the firewall trustable enough or do i
>still need another one>?

What do you mean by "trustable enough"? - The windows firewall has
been trustable all the time. The idea that you need a third party
firewall is promoted by third party firewall vendors together with
clueless dudes who believe in host based outbound control and
similarly silly features and who distrust anything MS and therefore
are willing to add additional chunks of highly questionable code to
their system believing it will increase security. LOL.

>Somehow i can hardly believe that windows creates a firewall and that that
>then is not working good enough and that one then needs to use another one..?

Maybe it's because it simply isn't true.

>Other question (sorry it is all about this specific firewall thing): Can the
>firewall of windows work together with another one?

Yes.... in the way that installing another one will mostly turn the
windows one off. You shouldn't have more than one running at a time.

>Thank you for your answers,

You're welcome. And before jumping on me for being rude and arrogant
sit down, take a deep breath and reconsider your approach towards
security.

Posted by Jerry on April 10, 2008, 1:45 am
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Thank you too, Straight Talk, your answers are very helpfull and make me
indeed get rid of the third party things, i start to like windows vista alot..
Jerry

"Straight Talk" wrote:

> wrote:
>
> >1 i got a message from the comodo firewall telling me that a trusted file
> >wants to acces ipremove.exe. I cannot find any info about the ipremove.exe on
> >the whole internet.. anybody familiar with this>
>
> Here is your first problem: You are using crappy "security" solutions
> you don't even understand.
>
> Here is your second problem: Why on earth are you even wasting your
> time worrying about what a *trusted* file wants to do? You are letting
> commodos stupid pop-ups confuse you!
>
> >2: Is the windows (vista) firewall indeed now also blocking as well incoming
> >as outgoing traffic.
>
> >This info i got from a dutch website and i donot know if
> >that info is corect.
>
> It is. Luckily, it's not doing this silly outbound application control
> the way so called 3rd party firewalls do, though.
>
> >Does this make if the info is correct the firewall trustable enough or do i
> >still need another one>?
>
> What do you mean by "trustable enough"? - The windows firewall has
> been trustable all the time. The idea that you need a third party
> firewall is promoted by third party firewall vendors together with
> clueless dudes who believe in host based outbound control and
> similarly silly features and who distrust anything MS and therefore
> are willing to add additional chunks of highly questionable code to
> their system believing it will increase security. LOL.
>
> >Somehow i can hardly believe that windows creates a firewall and that that
> >then is not working good enough and that one then needs to use another one..?
>
> Maybe it's because it simply isn't true.
>
> >Other question (sorry it is all about this specific firewall thing): Can the
> >firewall of windows work together with another one?
>
> Yes.... in the way that installing another one will mostly turn the
> windows one off. You shouldn't have more than one running at a time.
>
> >Thank you for your answers,
>
> You're welcome. And before jumping on me for being rude and arrogant
> sit down, take a deep breath and reconsider your approach towards
> security.
>

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