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Posted by Galen on October 23, 2005, 4:04 am
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My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
> This isn't a matter of construction technique, but rather strategy.
> Microsoft could simply choose to package it only one way. The fact
> that they hide the non-Desktop Search version indicates that they are
> already thinking that Desktop Search is a base feature and not an
> add-on.
>
>>
>> My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Any idea if Microsoft will continue to offer a version of the
>>> toolbar without desktop search in the future?
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
>>>>
>>>>> We have a Windows Server 2003 environment with Terminal Services.
>>>>> We'd like to make the MSN Search Toolbar available to our users,
>>>>> but we don't want Desktop Search. Is there a way to install just
>>>>> the toolbar without installing Desktop Search?
>>>>
>>>> http://toolbar.msn.com/default.aspx
>>>>
>>>> Bottom right - select country and click "Download Now" for it. Not
>>>> the top - that's the toolbar WITH the Desktop Search. I imagine you
>>>> can just install it as a default profile user (you'll need to run
>>>> it as an admin to install it probably - or at least I hope) and
>>>> that *might* make it available to all users though I can't
>>>> actually say I've ever tried to do such with GPO, roaming
>>>> profiles, or anything handy like that. But, well, that'd be the
>>>> download for it. You'll need to figure the rest out on your own.
>>>> <g> --
>>>> Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE)
>>>> http://dts-l.org/
>>>>
>>>> "A man should keep his little brain attic stocked with all the
>>>> furniture that he is likely to use, and the rest he can put away in
>>>> the lumber-room of his library where he can get it if he wants it."
>>>>
>>>> Sherlock Holmes
>>
>> Any idea??? Well... No... Do I suspect that they will as there's
>> likely to be a call for it and there's no "need" to build it in with
>> the way development is done today? Yes, I suspect you'll be able to
>> get it that way for a long time to come. SOA... Applications are
>> built to fall in-place with each other and compliment each other
>> meaning that they can be separated and not really require all the
>> additional components. It's a whole different mind set than was
>> taught when I was in school really but it makes sense and if looked
>> at properly you can (I hope) see the value in it. Basically using a
>> standard set of rules that apply system wide (and remember Microsoft
>> Windows is popular not just for the reasons we expect but rather for
>> the ease of development work on it) and an application that follows
>> a certain set of guidelines means that you can add to, take away,
>> and make additional components more easily intergratable. I'd like
>> to hope that you'd be able to download JUST the toolbar for a long
>> time to come however don't quote me on that and I can only state
>> what I think should/could be likely to happen in this matter. --
>> Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE)
>> http://dts-l.org/
>>
>> "A man should keep his little brain attic stocked with all the
>> furniture that he is likely to use, and the rest he can put away in
>> the lumber-room of his library where he can get it if he wants it."
>>
>> Sherlock Holmes
I love to digress so I'm pretty much sure to agree.
My feelings are such that the DTS (desktop search) is the implementation
that is being given a priority for a variety of business goals. The app
wasn't really "hidden" in my opinion - if that makes sense. Of course I knew
where it was. No longer a priority in and of itself doesn't make, for
example, an app any less likely to be continued to be released by itself
but, and this is where I agree, it does make it very much LESS likely to be
devoted a great deal of resources in the future.
DTS is a way for Microsoft to compete with common end-user applications in
place by other vendors. It is a priority in that the world seems to be
moving more and more towards provided services and away from locally stored
resources.
To ignore the technique used to create the application is to do yourself a
dis-service as the very structure in which it is designed and implemented is
and indication of the objectives. To be able to add to (or remove in this
case) an app and/or then provide it as a bundled service is a huge step in
mentality for the average old-school coder.
As far as toolbars go it seems likely that this one will continue for some
time to come though I'm not aware of any policy stating it's goals within
the Microsoft enterprise. I, for one, hope that development continues but,
at the same time, I'd caution you to hold on to the copy you have just in
case.
--
Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE)
http://dts-l.org/
"A man should keep his little brain attic stocked with all the
furniture that he is likely to use, and the rest he can put away in the
lumber-room of his library where he can get it if he wants it."
Sherlock Holmes
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