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IAS + user smartcard + workstation certificate domibik 07-06-2007
Posted by domibik on July 6, 2007, 9:48 am
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Hi !

I want wireless clients use PKI and IAS to get to network.

My idea is workstation is verified via workstation-certificate before
user use his smartcard (authentication via user certificate on his
card).

I know I can use workstation-certificate OR user-smartcard option.

Is this possible to set it together as a access-sequence ?

Thanks in advance

Dominik


Posted by Brian Komar on July 6, 2007, 12:02 pm
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On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 13:48:58 -0000, domibik@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi !
>
> I want wireless clients use PKI and IAS to get to network.
>
> My idea is workstation is verified via workstation-certificate before
> user use his smartcard (authentication via user certificate on his
> card).
>
> I know I can use workstation-certificate OR user-smartcard option.
>
> Is this possible to set it together as a access-sequence ?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Dominik

This is a very commonly deployed model. The workstation authenticates
(allowing processing of GPO/scripts) and then the user is authenticated at
logon time, to allow continued connectivity.
Brian

Posted by S. Pidgorny on July 6, 2007, 9:48 pm
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Just wanted to add quickly: even when dual authentication is enabled, it is
virtually impossible to _require_ both computer and user authentication,
because server infrastructure considers computer and used authentication
request separate and independent.

--
Svyatoslav Pidgorny, MS MVP - Security, MCSE
-= F1 is the key =-

* http://sl.mvps.org * http://msmvps.com/blogs/sp *


> On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 13:48:58 -0000, domibik@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi !
>>
>> I want wireless clients use PKI and IAS to get to network.
>>
>> My idea is workstation is verified via workstation-certificate before
>> user use his smartcard (authentication via user certificate on his
>> card).
>>
>> I know I can use workstation-certificate OR user-smartcard option.
>>
>> Is this possible to set it together as a access-sequence ?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Dominik
>
> This is a very commonly deployed model. The workstation authenticates
> (allowing processing of GPO/scripts) and then the user is authenticated at
> logon time, to allow continued connectivity.
> Brian



Posted by domibik on July 9, 2007, 8:32 am
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Hi !

But I can't find how to set it.
In network connection properties (in wireless card) - there is option
to use smart-card OR certificate.
I can't set both at the same time.

When I choose SmartCard - workstation certificate is not required (I
can remove it from my CertStore on workstation).
But when I use option certificate stored on Computer then I must have
workstation certificate in local Store and I don't need smartcard.

I want to force that workstations must have their cetificates on local
stores and users must have their smartcards with PIN to get to network

--
Dominik Weglarz


Posted by S. Pidgorny on July 16, 2007, 5:57 am
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Please elaborate - what exactly is not working if you require certificate
authentication, have both workstation and user certificate along with
private keys in appropriate store, and try to connect?

--
Svyatoslav Pidgorny, MS MVP - Security, MCSE
-= F1 is the key =-

* http://sl.mvps.org * http://msmvps.com/blogs/sp *

> Hi !
>
> But I can't find how to set it.
> In network connection properties (in wireless card) - there is option
> to use smart-card OR certificate.
> I can't set both at the same time.
>
> When I choose SmartCard - workstation certificate is not required (I
> can remove it from my CertStore on workstation).
> But when I use option certificate stored on Computer then I must have
> workstation certificate in local Store and I don't need smartcard.
>
> I want to force that workstations must have their cetificates on local
> stores and users must have their smartcards with PIN to get to network
>
> --
> Dominik Weglarz
>



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