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I can't underestand IKE Authentication! ArshinK 10-28-2007
Posted by ArshinK on October 28, 2007, 12:31 pm
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Hi
I have a problem when trying to understand Certificate-Authententication in
IKE.
The problem is that when we take an IPSec-certificates from CA and install
them in the Principal's-Store, it doesn't matter to what name we use for
Subject-Field.
So how it protects against Man-in-the-Middle Attack? as it is possible for
attacker to take a certificate with an optional name from the same CA and
performs a successful authentication?
In other word, what attribute (except that Subject) in the certificate
exactly determines the identification of other principal?
It is clear for me when using the Authentication Process in Kerberos or
Pre-Shared-Key but not about Certificate when no field in the certificate is
related to other principal!

Please help !
Thanks



Posted by Gaurav Kumar on October 28, 2007, 11:29 pm
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ArshinK,
Information at
http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/47b6a8a2-c239-4264-ae23-9b220391293c1033.mspx?mfr=true
might help you.

---
Gaurav Kumar
Security Consultant
http://blogs.technet.com/gauravphoenix/








> Hi
> I have a problem when trying to understand Certificate-Authententication
> in IKE.
> The problem is that when we take an IPSec-certificates from CA and install
> them in the Principal's-Store, it doesn't matter to what name we use for
> Subject-Field.
> So how it protects against Man-in-the-Middle Attack? as it is possible for
> attacker to take a certificate with an optional name from the same CA and
> performs a successful authentication?
> In other word, what attribute (except that Subject) in the certificate
> exactly determines the identification of other principal?
> It is clear for me when using the Authentication Process in Kerberos or
> Pre-Shared-Key but not about Certificate when no field in the certificate
> is related to other principal!
>
> Please help !
> Thanks
>
>


Posted by ArshinK on October 29, 2007, 8:33 am
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Thanks Gaurav,
but:
Authentication occures at the Step 5,6 in IKE-Main-Mode-Negotiations and
just before it the DH-Exchange is done with Man-In-The-Middle,
The main problem is that the Principals doesn't have any
Identification-parameters from each other except the Peer-IP-Address, so
what prevents the Man-In-The-Middle to introduce himself as a valid
principal?

In Kerberos, Tickets binds to Peer-IP-Address, also in PSK, only the real
principals have the Shared-Key, but in the certificate what field relates
the certificate to Peer-IP-Address?
We have only Peer-IP-Address as a valid parameter for communication and not
the Name or other things!



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