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How2: User Rights on Domain but Admin Rights on Computer Tom C. 12-20-2006
Posted by Tom C. on December 20, 2006, 3:40 pm
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We have a pretty simple setup: Single Win2K3 Server/DC and may 8 or 10
client machines. We have a couple of users that we have assigned only a user
group membership on the domain because we don't want them messing with files
on the server shares. But at the same time, the user level login restricts
them on their personal clients to where they can't install software or even
run some software. How do I keep them as users on the domain but at the same
time give them administrative (read, FULL) access to their individual client
machines? Thanks, tom c



Posted by Roger Abell [MVP] on December 20, 2006, 4:24 pm
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Any domain account (i.e. plain user) can be added as a member
of a particular machine's Administrators group to make that domain
account an admin on that one machine.

However, this is not advisable.

Most applications by now, save for pretty old versions, can be made
to run without being admin. While admin is still required for config
changes and installs, etc. it is IMO far better to provide them with a
machine local account that is admin, for use when and only when it
is needed (config change, install, etc.), thus encouraging the use of
a plain (i.e. limited) user account for daily activity (i.e. their domain
account is just a member of Users on their machine, likely via the
membership of Domain Users in their machine's Users group).
Having everyone work day in day out as an admin is a recipe for
eventual disaster.

> We have a pretty simple setup: Single Win2K3 Server/DC and may 8 or 10
> client machines. We have a couple of users that we have assigned only a
> user group membership on the domain because we don't want them messing
> with files on the server shares. But at the same time, the user level
> login restricts them on their personal clients to where they can't install
> software or even run some software. How do I keep them as users on the
> domain but at the same time give them administrative (read, FULL) access
> to their individual client machines? Thanks, tom c
>



Posted by Leuchtflux on December 21, 2006, 6:42 am
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You can add domain users to the local Administrators group with
filtering function through Restricted groups by using Member of
functionality (2k3 supports this as well). Because any application that
installs device drivers or registers the service on local machine
requires the principal to have local administrative privilidges there
are reasons to do that sometimes. Even educational products such as
Mathworks MATLAB for example install their services. MATLAB installs
its MATLAB server service. Defragmentation software installs its
services on machine. If we're talking about networking software such as
network analyzers, bandwidth meters they always install their drivers
on the machine. But you can restrict your user rights and still leave
them with ability to install this software. You simply can install that
software automatically when users log on to their computers with group
policy or with desktop management software. I prefer to use Desktop
Authority (http://www.scriptlogic.com/da), desktop management tool from
Scriptlogic. I can set application to run under administrative
priviledges. User would get it installed on his machine and would be
able to run it even if he is just a member of domain users group. If
application requires extra priviledges on registry hives or on
services, I can change them remotely using Scriptlogic's Security
Explorer (http://www.scriptlogic.com/securityexplorer). I just
experiment first on my test machine to track which service and key
requires which type of priviledges. I can create a template that
contains needed ACEs, assing it to group and apply created ACL template
to specified set of services. User gets the ability to use the service
through the program but other keys that aren't used by this programs
are intact and protected.
Tom C. wrote:
> We have a pretty simple setup: Single Win2K3 Server/DC and may 8 or 10
> client machines. We have a couple of users that we have assigned only a user
> group membership on the domain because we don't want them messing with files
> on the server shares. But at the same time, the user level login restricts
> them on their personal clients to where they can't install software or even
> run some software. How do I keep them as users on the domain but at the same
> time give them administrative (read, FULL) access to their individual client
> machines? Thanks, tom c


Posted by David Reed on December 26, 2006, 1:46 pm
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Dear Sir,

You sound like you have a lot of experience with Desktop Authority and
Security Explorer.

I am currently using DA 7.5. I anticpate purchasing SE in the next few
days.

I'd be curious about how much there is to do with DA and SE, and wondered if
we might exchange some messages? I've been using DA for over a year now,
but I know I'm not using it to its fullest potential.

Thank-you,

-David
(PS...anyone know of any ScriptLogic newsgroups?)




> You can add domain users to the local Administrators group with
> filtering function through Restricted groups by using Member of
> functionality (2k3 supports this as well). Because any application that
> installs device drivers or registers the service on local machine
> requires the principal to have local administrative privilidges there
> are reasons to do that sometimes. Even educational products such as
> Mathworks MATLAB for example install their services. MATLAB installs
> its MATLAB server service. Defragmentation software installs its
> services on machine. If we're talking about networking software such as
> network analyzers, bandwidth meters they always install their drivers
> on the machine. But you can restrict your user rights and still leave
> them with ability to install this software. You simply can install that
> software automatically when users log on to their computers with group
> policy or with desktop management software. I prefer to use Desktop
> Authority (http://www.scriptlogic.com/da), desktop management tool from
> Scriptlogic. I can set application to run under administrative
> priviledges. User would get it installed on his machine and would be
> able to run it even if he is just a member of domain users group. If
> application requires extra priviledges on registry hives or on
> services, I can change them remotely using Scriptlogic's Security
> Explorer (http://www.scriptlogic.com/securityexplorer). I just
> experiment first on my test machine to track which service and key
> requires which type of priviledges. I can create a template that
> contains needed ACEs, assing it to group and apply created ACL template
> to specified set of services. User gets the ability to use the service
> through the program but other keys that aren't used by this programs
> are intact and protected.
> Tom C. wrote:
>> We have a pretty simple setup: Single Win2K3 Server/DC and may 8 or 10
>> client machines. We have a couple of users that we have assigned only a
>> user
>> group membership on the domain because we don't want them messing with
>> files
>> on the server shares. But at the same time, the user level login
>> restricts
>> them on their personal clients to where they can't install software or
>> even
>> run some software. How do I keep them as users on the domain but at the
>> same
>> time give them administrative (read, FULL) access to their individual
>> client
>> machines? Thanks, tom c
>



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