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How to restrict file access to Domain Computers Only none 08-27-2006
Posted by none on August 27, 2006, 9:55 am
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Single Windows Server 2003. All workstations are Windows XP SP2.

I'm trying to restrict access to the shared files on the Server to computers
that are members of the Domain and so far it isn't working out too well.

Basically, we are allowing people to bring in laptop computers and connect
to our network for Internet access and for access to certain printers but do
not want to allow access to any shared files on the Server. We don't want
any files copied to a laptop and leaving the premises. These computers are
Workgroup computers; not Domain computers. I tried setting the Permissions
for the shared files to only allow access by Administrators and Domain
Computers, but this cut off access by all computers even though the
computers I tested with were clearly members of the Domain Computers group.

Any idea what I'm missing here? Do the Permissions/Security settings need
to be some combination of Domain Computers and Authenticated Users in order
to accomplish this?

Please help.

Thanks.

James

Posted by Arek Iskra [MVP] on August 27, 2006, 10:17 am
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> Single Windows Server 2003. All workstations are Windows XP SP2.
>
> I'm trying to restrict access to the shared files on the Server to
> computers
> that are members of the Domain and so far it isn't working out too well.
>
> Basically, we are allowing people to bring in laptop computers and connect
> to our network for Internet access and for access to certain printers but
> do
> not want to allow access to any shared files on the Server. We don't want
> any files copied to a laptop and leaving the premises. These computers
> are
> Workgroup computers; not Domain computers. I tried setting the
> Permissions
> for the shared files to only allow access by Administrators and Domain
> Computers, but this cut off access by all computers even though the
> computers I tested with were clearly members of the Domain Computers
> group.
>
> Any idea what I'm missing here? Do the Permissions/Security settings need
> to be some combination of Domain Computers and Authenticated Users in
> order
> to accomplish this?
>
> Please help.
>
> Thanks.
>
> James


You'll probably have to setup an isolated subnet where people can connect
computers brought from outside of the company.

--
Arek Iskra
MVP for Windows Server - Software Distribution



Posted by Roger Abell [MVP] on August 27, 2006, 10:47 am
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Search on ms.com for the guidance papers on using
IPsec for "doman isolation"

You could apply techniques from them to all only domain
members to have network traffic with the fileshare server.

However, your users could/would just save copies to their
workstations and copy to their non-domain laptops/devices
from there (or email the docs out).

Your attempt to accomplish this by setting permissions to
administrators and domain computers did not work because
the access is not being done by the domain computers but by
the account logged into the domain comp, so the check is
against that user account, not the computer account.

> Single Windows Server 2003. All workstations are Windows XP SP2.
>
> I'm trying to restrict access to the shared files on the Server to
> computers
> that are members of the Domain and so far it isn't working out too well.
>
> Basically, we are allowing people to bring in laptop computers and connect
> to our network for Internet access and for access to certain printers but
> do
> not want to allow access to any shared files on the Server. We don't want
> any files copied to a laptop and leaving the premises. These computers
> are
> Workgroup computers; not Domain computers. I tried setting the
> Permissions
> for the shared files to only allow access by Administrators and Domain
> Computers, but this cut off access by all computers even though the
> computers I tested with were clearly members of the Domain Computers
> group.
>
> Any idea what I'm missing here? Do the Permissions/Security settings need
> to be some combination of Domain Computers and Authenticated Users in
> order
> to accomplish this?
>
> Please help.
>
> Thanks.
>
> James



Posted by Steven L Umbach on August 27, 2006, 12:04 pm
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That of course is normally a great solution but in this case it sounds like
the file server is the domain controller which means ipsec could not be
implemented as an ipsec require policy on a DC will cause problems with the
domain member computers. Since it is may be a small network some else
mentioned that this worked for them. They configured the users account
properties in ADUC so that they were restricted to what computer they could
logon to and then they could not access domain resources from a non domain
computer assuming that the non domain computer did not have a name in the
list. That never occurred to me that it would work for network logon and I
tried it out and sure enough it worked giving some obscure message when I
tired to access a domain share. While it is not a foolproof security
solution it may help in smaller networks. Alas as you said none of this will
most likely stop a determined user from copying files anyhow from their
domain computer.

Steve


> Search on ms.com for the guidance papers on using
> IPsec for "doman isolation"
>
> You could apply techniques from them to all only domain
> members to have network traffic with the fileshare server.
>
> However, your users could/would just save copies to their
> workstations and copy to their non-domain laptops/devices
> from there (or email the docs out).
>
> Your attempt to accomplish this by setting permissions to
> administrators and domain computers did not work because
> the access is not being done by the domain computers but by
> the account logged into the domain comp, so the check is
> against that user account, not the computer account.
>
>> Single Windows Server 2003. All workstations are Windows XP SP2.
>>
>> I'm trying to restrict access to the shared files on the Server to
>> computers
>> that are members of the Domain and so far it isn't working out too well.
>>
>> Basically, we are allowing people to bring in laptop computers and
>> connect
>> to our network for Internet access and for access to certain printers but
>> do
>> not want to allow access to any shared files on the Server. We don't
>> want
>> any files copied to a laptop and leaving the premises. These computers
>> are
>> Workgroup computers; not Domain computers. I tried setting the
>> Permissions
>> for the shared files to only allow access by Administrators and Domain
>> Computers, but this cut off access by all computers even though the
>> computers I tested with were clearly members of the Domain Computers
>> group.
>>
>> Any idea what I'm missing here? Do the Permissions/Security settings
>> need
>> to be some combination of Domain Computers and Authenticated Users in
>> order
>> to accomplish this?
>>
>> Please help.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> James
>
>



Posted by James on August 27, 2006, 2:24 pm
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Thanks to all for the good ideas. I never thought of restricting their
ability to logon from other computers. That sounds like the solution I
want.

I'm not really looking for a foolproof solution. If they are determined, it
will take someone better than I to stop them. But, all email is monitored
and sending files without consent is a releasable offense; remote "personal"
mailboxes are prohibited (and Internet traffic is monitored); and USB
devices do not appear in My Computer or Windows Explorer.

The home laptop, on the other hand, seemed like a huge gaping hole that
needed a plug; even an imperfect one.

Thanks again.

Later.

James

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