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How to get MAP to work with mouseover Robert Baer 04-10-2006
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Posted by Andy Dingley on April 12, 2006, 6:50 am
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VK wrote:

> Mr. Korpela: my sorry duty is to inform you that you are currently
> acting like a complete asshole - without any asterix.

And I'll stand up here to defence Jukka. He does over-react sometimes,
but this one's justified.

Post the URLs, make things easy for the people who you're hoping to
help you. We don't _have_ to do this you know, and I'm sure we're all
busy.


Posted by Robert Baer on April 13, 2006, 6:21 am
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Andy Dingley wrote:

> VK wrote:
>
>
>>Mr. Korpela: my sorry duty is to inform you that you are currently
>>acting like a complete asshole - without any asterix.
>
>
> And I'll stand up here to defence Jukka. He does over-react sometimes,
> but this one's justified.
>
> Post the URLs, make things easy for the people who you're hoping to
> help you. We don't _have_ to do this you know, and I'm sure we're all
> busy.
>
They have been posted (notice past tense).
But i fail to see having the code on the web helps at all.
Please explain.

Posted by Michael Stemper on April 13, 2006, 1:30 pm
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writes:
>Andy Dingley wrote:

>> Post the URLs, make things easy for the people who you're hoping to
>> help you. We don't _have_ to do this you know, and I'm sure we're all
>> busy.
>>
> They have been posted (notice past tense).
> But i fail to see having the code on the web helps at all.
> Please explain.

There are a few reasons to do this:
1. If you don't, then every person who might consider helping you
would need to take the time to put it into a page on their
server. Since you're already relying on the kindness of others
to investigate your problem, it's in your self-interest to make
it as easy for them to do so as possible.
2. Code snippets posted in an article are often found to be missing
relevant parts (DOCTYPEs, for example).
3. Code snippets posted in an article often end up being different
from the real code, despite the best cut-and-paste in the world.
4. Sometimes, things such as images or style sheets are relevant.
They wouldn't be included in a post.
5. Sometimes, problems aren't with the html itself, but with file
permissions or server configuration. These can only be detected
by seeing the page in its native environment.

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Michael F. Stemper
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Posted by Robert Baer on April 13, 2006, 6:06 pm
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Michael Stemper wrote:

writes:
>
>>Andy Dingley wrote:
>
>
>>>Post the URLs, make things easy for the people who you're hoping to
>>>help you. We don't _have_ to do this you know, and I'm sure we're all
>>>busy.
>>>
>>
>> They have been posted (notice past tense).
>> But i fail to see having the code on the web helps at all.
>> Please explain.
>
>
> There are a few reasons to do this:
> 1. If you don't, then every person who might consider helping you
> would need to take the time to put it into a page on their
> server. Since you're already relying on the kindness of others
> to investigate your problem, it's in your self-interest to make
> it as easy for them to do so as possible.
> 2. Code snippets posted in an article are often found to be missing
> relevant parts (DOCTYPEs, for example).
> 3. Code snippets posted in an article often end up being different
> from the real code, despite the best cut-and-paste in the world.
> 4. Sometimes, things such as images or style sheets are relevant.
> They wouldn't be included in a post.
> 5. Sometimes, problems aren't with the html itself, but with file
> permissions or server configuration. These can only be detected
> by seeing the page in its native environment.
>
Thanks for the info, but one does not need to put an HTML "page" on a
server to see how it works.
I have done all development and testing locally on a single-user
computer, off line.
So, that has been the native environment for developing all "pages"
that i have actually wound up using online in a website.
When i saw certain things not working, i knew the coding was in error
somehow, and it seemed to me tha posting the code as i had, would allow
someone reading it to see "oh, you messed up here" etc.
And up until i did the posting, that seemed to be the MO.
And what i had included were not "snippets", they were complete
copies of what i had been working on.
However, there *has* been a copy problem - apparently invisible
characters get embedded - the result looks exactly like the original,
but causes, at minimum, validation errors.
I have taken one such file and hand over-typed the area in question;
the result looked absolutely identical - but was valid!
So taking the validated HTML and FTP it to a site appears to
eliminate that crap, making things easier on both sides of the "fence".
I sure would like to know what exatly is causing that barfing...

Posted by Alan J. Flavell on April 13, 2006, 6:58 pm
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On Thu, 13 Apr 2006, Robert Baer wrote:

[quotes the answer to his question, despite *still* apparently
ignoring it]

> Thanks for the info, but one does not need to put an HTML "page"
> on a server to see how it works.

You really are too stubborn to seem capable of using any help.
Bye.

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