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Posted by Stephen Poley on October 9, 2005, 12:05 pm
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On 9 Oct 2005 02:05:15 -0700, opt_inf_env@yahoo.com wrote:
>> What you are trying to do is display an external Web page contrary
>> to the way the owner of that page wants it to be displayed. DON'T
>> DO IT! Have some respect for the creative efforts of a page's
>> owner.
That isn't quite the point. If you switch off styling in your browser,
or view the page in Lynx, you are quite possibly displaying it contrary
to the way the owner wants the page displayed (at least if the owner is
a deezyner-type) but there is nothing wrong with that. The issue is
taking someone else's material and effectively displaying it within
one's own site.
>> My own pages are copyrighted. I give a blanket release to anyone
>> who wants to link to my pages.
>I never heard that sometimes it is forbidden to link to somebody's
>page. Does it mean that if I link to your page without your permission
>I break the law and will account for it?
Being able to link directly to any page of a site is an intrinsic part
of the concept of the World Wide Web. In my opinion, suggesting that
someone needs permission to link to a page is as ridiculous as
suggesting that someone needs permission to reference a particular page
of a book.
Sadly however there are a few benighted companies who think that
everyone who visits their site should come through their main entry page
- the one with the advertisements on it. There have been some court
cases on this, and I believe there have even been one or two
ill-informed judges who have ruled against so-called "deep linking".
However it is possible that in some of these cases the linker was in
fact framing the other site - I haven't tried to disentangle all the
rights and wrongs. As more judges themselves start to use computers, the
risks of silly rulings on this point are diminishing.
AIUI however one of the reasons behind the present trend of free logins
on many news sites is indeed to force readers to go through the "front
page".
>What about google? It makes
>linkage automatically and there are links on your page in the search
>results. Does it mean that you can bring an action against google?
You can always bring an action against anyone. In this case you wouldn't
deserve to succeed though.
>By
>the way, do we speak about some world-wide law regulating
>interrelations in web-space or we speak just about law of USA?
I suspect we are actually talking about the particular judge concerned
and which side of bed he got out of. (Although if you are passing off
other peoples work as your own, that would be prohibited in almost all
countries.)
>> However, that release requires my
>> pages do not appear within a frame on someone else's page. If you
>> display one of my pages in one of your frames, that is a violation
>> of my copyright, for which I will take whatever legal measures are
>> necessary to protect.
>Here is a link on google-page which put your copyrighted page into a
>frame. Does google break the low?
>http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.vcnet.com/~rossde/PGP/mykeys.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.vcnet.com/~rossde/PGP/&h=43&w=44&sz=2&tbnid=b97DVLa4wTwJ:&tbnh=43&tbnw=44&hl=en&start=2&prev=/images%3Fq%3D%2522My%2BPGP%2Bkeys%2522%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D
In this case it may do. Try taking Google to court and let us know how
you get on.
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Stephen Poley
http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpoley/webmatters/
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