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Hindi -i Harlan Messinger 01-29-2008
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Posted by Harlan Messinger on January 30, 2008, 10:34 am
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Andreas Prilop wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Harlan Messinger wrote:
>
>> Evidently IE6 and Firefox want to treat the -i symbol differently.
>
> First install
> http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/handson/user/2kintlsupp.mspx
> http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/handson/user/xpintlsupp.mspx
>
> Then check again with
> http://www.unics.uni-hannover.de/nhtcapri/multilingual1#nagari
> http://www.unics.uni-hannover.de/nhtcapri/sanskrit-alphabet
>

Thanks for the info. The funny thing is that even with all the language
support boxes unchecked, Arabic works the right way, and Hindi works
right except for this one vowel. Unfortunately I no longer have access
to the original CD, but fortunately this computer's being replace in the
next few weeks anyway.

Posted by Andreas Prilop on January 30, 2008, 10:49 am
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Harlan Messinger wrote:

>> http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/handson/user/2kintlsupp.mspx
>> http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/handson/user/xpintlsupp.mspx
>
> The funny thing is that even with all the language
> support boxes unchecked, Arabic works the right way,

I doubt - check here:
http://www.unics.uni-hannover.de/nhtcapri/arabic-alphabet

> and Hindi works right except for this one vowel.

I doubt - check here:
http://www.unics.uni-hannover.de/nhtcapri/sanskrit-alphabet#conjuncts

--
Bugs in Internet Explorer 7
http://www.unics.uni-hannover.de/nhtcapri/ie7-bugs

Posted by Harlan Messinger on January 30, 2008, 11:29 am
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Andreas Prilop wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Harlan Messinger wrote:
>
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/handson/user/2kintlsupp.mspx
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/handson/user/xpintlsupp.mspx
>> The funny thing is that even with all the language
>> support boxes unchecked, Arabic works the right way,
>
> I doubt - check here:
> http://www.unics.uni-hannover.de/nhtcapri/arabic-alphabet
>
>> and Hindi works right except for this one vowel.
>
> I doubt - check here:
> http://www.unics.uni-hannover.de/nhtcapri/sanskrit-alphabet#conjuncts
>

Firefox messes up when vowels are added (as they are in the column
headers and in the letters' names for hamzah, 'alif, and 'alif maddah,
but then not for the names of the remaining letters), but IE handles
them fine. All the letter forms are correct in both browsers, and
Firefox, but not IE, shows vertical lines with an x-cross at the top as
placeholders for the preceding letter for the medial and final forms.

Posted by Andreas Prilop on January 30, 2008, 11:42 am
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Harlan Messinger wrote:

>> http://www.unics.uni-hannover.de/nhtcapri/arabic-alphabet
>> http://www.unics.uni-hannover.de/nhtcapri/sanskrit-alphabet#conjuncts
>
> Firefox, but not IE, shows vertical lines with an x-cross
> at the top as placeholders for the preceding letter for
> the medial and final forms.

And that's wrong. The zero-width joiner (‍) should not be
visible. These two
‍ه‍
ﻬ
should look the same, showing you the connecting (middle) glyph
of the letter ha.

--
"al-qâ'idah" is Arabic and means "black water".

Posted by Harlan Messinger on January 30, 2008, 11:55 am
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Andreas Prilop wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, Harlan Messinger wrote:
>
>>> http://www.unics.uni-hannover.de/nhtcapri/arabic-alphabet
>>> http://www.unics.uni-hannover.de/nhtcapri/sanskrit-alphabet#conjuncts
>> Firefox, but not IE, shows vertical lines with an x-cross
>> at the top as placeholders for the preceding letter for
>> the medial and final forms.
>
> And that's wrong. The zero-width joiner (‍) should not be
> visible. These two
> ‍ه‍
> ﻬ
> should look the same, showing you the connecting (middle) glyph
> of the letter ha.

Except for the placeholder, they do look the same--I'm correctly seeing
all four forms of ha.

Is there a rule that says that when ZWJ follows a space it shouldn't be
treated as an intention to indicate the position of a phantom letter?


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