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Posted by trevor on April 23, 2005, 7:41 pm
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ok, so everybody already knows this right?
there's all these people pulling down our posts and using them as content
for their sites.
not that bad an idea actually. i suppose there's nothing unethical about
it....just doesn't seem very....i dunno....
but how much can it be doing for them? hello, duplication of content?
trevor
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Posted by robert blake on April 23, 2005, 7:56 pm
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> ok, so everybody already knows this right?
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> there's all these people pulling down our posts and using them as
> content for their sites.
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> not that bad an idea actually. i suppose there's nothing unethical
> about it....just doesn't seem very....i dunno....
>
> but how much can it be doing for them? hello, duplication of content?
here in the UK, i've seen an ex-pats website that has incorporated various
travel related usenet groups into it's website.
It looks well and obviously has fresh content, that brings folks back to
the website.
But I always wondered about the legal issues ie does google not have some
level of copyright on usenet posts? Or can we all incorporate usenet
posts/newsgroups into out web sites?
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Posted by Viper on April 23, 2005, 8:05 pm
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robert blake wrote:
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>> ok, so everybody already knows this right?
>> there's all these people pulling down our posts and using them as
>> content for their sites.
>> not that bad an idea actually. i suppose there's nothing unethical
>> about it....just doesn't seem very....i dunno....
>> but how much can it be doing for them? hello, duplication of content?
> here in the UK, i've seen an ex-pats website that has incorporated
> various travel related usenet groups into it's website.
> It looks well and obviously has fresh content, that brings folks back
> to the website.
> But I always wondered about the legal issues ie does google not have
> some level of copyright on usenet posts? Or can we all incorporate
> usenet posts/newsgroups into out web sites?
Google doesnt own Usenet so why would they? Just because they offer an easy
way to post to usenet doesnt make them the owners.
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Viper
Are you seeking revenge?
http://www.seekingrevenge.com http://www.coinsandcurrency.info/
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Posted by Viper on April 25, 2005, 9:13 am
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trevor wrote:
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> ok, so everybody already knows this right?
> there's all these people pulling down our posts and using them as
> content for their sites.
> not that bad an idea actually. i suppose there's nothing unethical
> about it....just doesn't seem very....i dunno....
> but how much can it be doing for them? hello, duplication of content?
> trevor
You know what would be cool and evil is if
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<? header("location: http://www.coinsandcurrency.info");?>
or
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<META HTTP-EQUIV="refresh" content="0;URL=http://www.coinsandcurrency.info">
would work :)
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Are you seeking revenge?
http://www.seekingrevenge.com http://www.coinsandcurrency.info/
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Posted by trevor on April 25, 2005, 11:00 am
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you are all, with your discussion of copyright, completely OT. of course
'we' own copyright (under US law) to everything we render in tangible
form as of the moment of our having renderified it. the fact that
observable examples give attribution fits perfectly into the
academic/scholarly tradition of the net. additionally, this regurgitative
content production process is consistant with mamalian feeding habits
observable in wolves, canines, felines and females. in a nutshell, we
spew, they chew.
logically, we must therefore relinquish all but a nominal control of the
whatever-it-is-we're-doing to the whoever-they-are to do with as they
please, as long as they respect the stupid attribution, which buys each
and every one of us the right to say that we said so when we did.
this should be the end of the story. but it ain't.
not surprisingly, many of 'us' have suddenly realized that people are, in
fact, making money off us. perhaps to good advantage.
without bias in this regard, i think we may have highlighted one nuance
of this board: 'we' seem to be netrepreneurs and professionals, academics
and that other thing i've been forbidden to say, but it begins with a Z
and ends with an N.
and i have to recall all the great solutions, all the great people i've
connected with on usenet.
summing up, i don't plan to do anything different, A-dub-dub is a
resource for me just like everybody else (apparently). there are leeches,
there are springs of water and which we are and at what point in
whoever's continuum we're at is somebody's guess.
so half of you, pick it up and make money off it. the rest of us get to
watch them and gain insights into something or other which we're probably
best off keeping to oursevels.
like i'm an expert at keeping anything to myself.
-a proud member of the most self-terminating of professions on earth,
web-enabled-software-solutions,
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> there's all these people pulling down our posts and using them as
> content for their sites.
>
> not that bad an idea actually. i suppose there's nothing unethical
> about it....just doesn't seem very....i dunno....
>
> but how much can it be doing for them? hello, duplication of content?