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Help w/ Making page more inviting George Sexton 05-06-2008
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Posted by George Sexton on May 6, 2008, 12:09 pm
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I have a trial signup page:

http://www.mhsoftware.com/trial/TrialSignup.html

for our product:

http://www.mhsoftware.com/hosting/index.html

and I'm looking for ways to make the trial signup page more inviting.
I've tried to reduce the page down and make it as simple as possible,
but I'm afraid it's now so stark that it's a turn off.

I've been working so hard on this site for the past week or so, that I'm
just brain-dead, and out of ideas.

So, any suggestions on what I should do to this page to make it more
appealing, while keeping the appearance un-intimidating would be really
appreciated.

Posted by Red E. Kilowatt on May 6, 2008, 4:37 pm
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co-dnbBsS787H73VnZ2dnUVZ_sSlnZ2d@comcast.com,
> So, any suggestions on what I should do to this page to make it more
> appealing, while keeping the appearance un-intimidating would be
> really appreciated.

The sign-up page is fine. The yearly subscription for a hosted calendar
is way too high. There are plenty of free calendars available in one
form or another.

Only the totally brain-dead would sign up for a free trial without
checking out what the purchase price will be. $39.95 is a lot more
attractive than $99.

--
Red



Posted by George Sexton on May 6, 2008, 7:33 pm
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Red E. Kilowatt wrote:
> co-dnbBsS787H73VnZ2dnUVZ_sSlnZ2d@comcast.com,
>> So, any suggestions on what I should do to this page to make it more
>> appealing, while keeping the appearance un-intimidating would be
>> really appreciated.
>
> The sign-up page is fine. The yearly subscription for a hosted calendar
> is way too high. There are plenty of free calendars available in one
> form or another.
>
> Only the totally brain-dead would sign up for a free trial without
> checking out what the purchase price will be. $39.95 is a lot more
> attractive than $99.
>

Defending price is one of those pointless things that I do once in a
while, so here goes.

There are any number of free, and cheaper calendars out there. This is
true. What sets us apart?

Support. Our phone # is right on our web site. Most of our competitors
don't list their number. It's 100% email, which can be frustrating. It
costs money to answer the phone but we do it. If your time is worth so
little, you can wait 2-3 days for some vendor to answer an Email, then I
guess that works for you.

Documentation. We have really extensive documentation. We've made a
genuine effort to make our docs help web designers get on board fast.

Ease of use. I had someone tell me the other day: "Yours was the first
calendar I looked at, and I immediately knew what to do."

Features. We're about the only thing out there with resource management.
Additionally, we support RSS, CSV, iCal, Ajax, and a lot of other
things. We have a security model that will scale from a small school to
very large universities.

Scalability. One of our hosted customers has 36,000 events in their
calendar. On top of that they extensively use the RSS feeds to extract
data for integration into their sites. We have had customers come to us
from other products because their software was "running out of gas".

Support again. We back up our customers data. I just helped a guy who
was self-hosting re-install his software. He lost all of his data
because his cheapy hosting company wasn't backing up the DB. We even
restore data if a customer accidentally erases it. The first time is
free. We also routinely do remote pc support with customers to help with
installation, or trouble-shoot issues.

So, from our perspective only the totally brain-dead would spend two
hours trying to figure out how to install and use a poor quality, poorly
documented calendar with no support when you can sign up for our service
and have it running in 5 minutes.

Posted by Jerry Stuckle on May 6, 2008, 8:18 pm
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George Sexton wrote:
> Red E. Kilowatt wrote:
>> co-dnbBsS787H73VnZ2dnUVZ_sSlnZ2d@comcast.com,
>>> So, any suggestions on what I should do to this page to make it more
>>> appealing, while keeping the appearance un-intimidating would be
>>> really appreciated.
>>
>> The sign-up page is fine. The yearly subscription for a hosted
>> calendar is way too high. There are plenty of free calendars available
>> in one form or another.
>>
>> Only the totally brain-dead would sign up for a free trial without
>> checking out what the purchase price will be. $39.95 is a lot more
>> attractive than $99.
>>
>
> Defending price is one of those pointless things that I do once in a
> while, so here goes.
>
> There are any number of free, and cheaper calendars out there. This is
> true. What sets us apart?
>
> Support. Our phone # is right on our web site. Most of our competitors
> don't list their number. It's 100% email, which can be frustrating. It
> costs money to answer the phone but we do it. If your time is worth so
> little, you can wait 2-3 days for some vendor to answer an Email, then I
> guess that works for you.
>
> Documentation. We have really extensive documentation. We've made a
> genuine effort to make our docs help web designers get on board fast.
>
> Ease of use. I had someone tell me the other day: "Yours was the first
> calendar I looked at, and I immediately knew what to do."
>
> Features. We're about the only thing out there with resource management.
> Additionally, we support RSS, CSV, iCal, Ajax, and a lot of other
> things. We have a security model that will scale from a small school to
> very large universities.
>
> Scalability. One of our hosted customers has 36,000 events in their
> calendar. On top of that they extensively use the RSS feeds to extract
> data for integration into their sites. We have had customers come to us
> from other products because their software was "running out of gas".
>
> Support again. We back up our customers data. I just helped a guy who
> was self-hosting re-install his software. He lost all of his data
> because his cheapy hosting company wasn't backing up the DB. We even
> restore data if a customer accidentally erases it. The first time is
> free. We also routinely do remote pc support with customers to help with
> installation, or trouble-shoot issues.
>
> So, from our perspective only the totally brain-dead would spend two
> hours trying to figure out how to install and use a poor quality, poorly
> documented calendar with no support when you can sign up for our service
> and have it running in 5 minutes.
>

Yes, I understand your position. But I agree - most people don't care
enough about the support, documentation, etc. to spend $99/yr.

You need to look at your customers. Most of them will be low-tech, with
no idea what a "backup" is, much less why they would want you to restore
their data (or how important that is).

You need to look at your target audience - and do a market analysis on
what they are willing to pay for such a service. I doubt many would be
willing to pay $99/yr, but many more would be willing to pay $39/yr.

--
==================
Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry Stuckle
JDS Computer Training Corp.
jstucklex@attglobal.net
==================


Posted by SAZ on May 6, 2008, 10:10 pm
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gsexton@mhsoftware.com says...
> Red E. Kilowatt wrote:
> > co-dnbBsS787H73VnZ2dnUVZ_sSlnZ2d@comcast.com,
> >> So, any suggestions on what I should do to this page to make it more
> >> appealing, while keeping the appearance un-intimidating would be
> >> really appreciated.
> >
> > The sign-up page is fine. The yearly subscription for a hosted calendar
> > is way too high. There are plenty of free calendars available in one
> > form or another.
> >
> > Only the totally brain-dead would sign up for a free trial without
> > checking out what the purchase price will be. $39.95 is a lot more
> > attractive than $99.
> >
>
> Defending price is one of those pointless things that I do once in a
> while, so here goes.
>
> There are any number of free, and cheaper calendars out there. This is
> true. What sets us apart?
>
> Support. Our phone # is right on our web site. Most of our competitors
> don't list their number. It's 100% email, which can be frustrating. It
> costs money to answer the phone but we do it. If your time is worth so
> little, you can wait 2-3 days for some vendor to answer an Email, then I
> guess that works for you.
>
> Documentation. We have really extensive documentation. We've made a
> genuine effort to make our docs help web designers get on board fast.
>
> Ease of use. I had someone tell me the other day: "Yours was the first
> calendar I looked at, and I immediately knew what to do."
>
> Features. We're about the only thing out there with resource management.
> Additionally, we support RSS, CSV, iCal, Ajax, and a lot of other
> things. We have a security model that will scale from a small school to
> very large universities.
>
> Scalability. One of our hosted customers has 36,000 events in their
> calendar. On top of that they extensively use the RSS feeds to extract
> data for integration into their sites. We have had customers come to us
> from other products because their software was "running out of gas".
>
> Support again. We back up our customers data. I just helped a guy who
> was self-hosting re-install his software. He lost all of his data
> because his cheapy hosting company wasn't backing up the DB. We even
> restore data if a customer accidentally erases it. The first time is
> free. We also routinely do remote pc support with customers to help with
> installation, or trouble-shoot issues.
>
> So, from our perspective only the totally brain-dead would spend two
> hours trying to figure out how to install and use a poor quality, poorly
> documented calendar with no support when you can sign up for our service
> and have it running in 5 minutes.
>
What I find strange is that you have the same price for non-profit as
the others. Why isn't there a significant price break? As the former
President of a local non-profit soccer club, I feel that non-profits
should be a huge market for you, but not at $99/year when there are many
free alternatives.

I know you don't want to listen, but as a former potential customer, I
can tell you that I always received a 20 - 30% discount on services such
as this as soon as I identified myself as a non-profit and supplied the
Tax ID Number.

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