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Help - DST patches totally screwed up six years worth of history!! Byron Followell 02-26-2008
Posted by Byron Followell on February 26, 2008, 5:33 am
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I noticed that a lot of my all day events were off by a day. It was mostly
non-recurring annual all day events. Independence Day was on 7/3, Mother's
Day was on a Saturday, that sort of thing. I didn't really notice a problem
with any of the times that I saw.

After a little digging, it sounded like the issue was caused by the DST
changes.

I installed the newest DST patches for my OS and for my Smartphone.

Now everything is totally screwed up. I want to use MUCH stronger words but
don't want to offend anyone so I'll try to hold my anger. The patch set the
time on my PDA ahead by two hours and the start time of every single
appointment, even those going back five or six years, to two hours earlier
that they should be. This is the affect on my PDA as well as within Outlook.

I am running Windows Vista Home Premium, Office 2007 Enterprise Edition and
my PDA/phone is an AT&T Tilt running Windows Mobile 6.

Can anyone help me revert everything back to the way it was or am I stuck
having to manually change thousands of appointments by hand? Any assistance
or advice anyone might be able to provide would be GREATLY appreciated.
Thanks in advance for any help anyone might be able to provide.

Sincerely,
- Byron Followell


Posted by Byron Followell on February 26, 2008, 7:50 am
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OK, here's a little more information. As I stated, the time on my AT&T Tilt
was set forward by two hours and ALL of my appointments were set back by two
hours. I double-checked and DST was on and my time zone was correct. I
correctly set the time on my PDA and most, not quite all, but most of my
appointments seem to have gone back to their correct times. I really don't
understand why the start times for my appointments would change just because
you change the current time on your PDA but things seem to be getting back to
normal.

One thing I noticed is that the patch seems to have changed all of my
previous "All Day" events into events that run from 12:00 AM to 12:00 AM.
This more or less accomplishes the same thing but they display differently
and I prefer true All Day events rather that 24 hour long events. I guess I
don't understand how Outlook/Calendar handles these events well enough to
understand why the patch would change these. Any ideas? Should I leave them
or convert them back to All Day events? Will that mess something up. It's
going to be a lot of work but not insurmountable.

I'm sure I'll have more questions or more revelations and discoveries later
but, in the mean time, any advice or assistance would still be most
appreciated. Thanks to everyone and have a wonderful day.

Sincerely,
- Byron Followell



"Byron Followell" wrote:

> I noticed that a lot of my all day events were off by a day. It was mostly
> non-recurring annual all day events. Independence Day was on 7/3, Mother's
> Day was on a Saturday, that sort of thing. I didn't really notice a problem
> with any of the times that I saw.
>
> After a little digging, it sounded like the issue was caused by the DST
> changes.
>
> I installed the newest DST patches for my OS and for my Smartphone.
>
> Now everything is totally screwed up. I want to use MUCH stronger words but
> don't want to offend anyone so I'll try to hold my anger. The patch set the
> time on my PDA ahead by two hours and the start time of every single
> appointment, even those going back five or six years, to two hours earlier
> that they should be. This is the affect on my PDA as well as within Outlook.
>
> I am running Windows Vista Home Premium, Office 2007 Enterprise Edition and
> my PDA/phone is an AT&T Tilt running Windows Mobile 6.
>
> Can anyone help me revert everything back to the way it was or am I stuck
> having to manually change thousands of appointments by hand? Any assistance
> or advice anyone might be able to provide would be GREATLY appreciated.
> Thanks in advance for any help anyone might be able to provide.
>
> Sincerely,
> - Byron Followell
>

Posted by Todd Allcock on February 29, 2008, 2:06 am
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At 26 Feb 2008 04:50:02 -0800 Byron Followell wrote:
> OK, here's a little more information. As I stated, the time on my AT&T
Tilt
> was set forward by two hours and ALL of my appointments were set back by
two
> hours. I double-checked and DST was on and my time zone was correct. I
> correctly set the time on my PDA and most, not quite all, but most of my
> appointments seem to have gone back to their correct times.

Not to kick you when you're down, but hopefully to save the next person;
why did you run the patches? AFAIK, neither Outlook 2007 nor WM6 require
them. Both were released after the DST change was decided upon and already
had the new DST rules coded in.



Posted by Byron Followell on February 29, 2008, 5:06 am
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Todd,

The main reason I ran the patches to begin with were that some of my
appointments were messed up to begin with, taking place a day earlier.
Mother's Day was on a Saturday. Memorial Day was on a Sunday. That sort of
thing. It seemed to impact mostly annual recurring events but there were
others too. Several readers steered me towards this being DST issues. Also,
since, Microsoft has released patches for WM6 and Outlook 2007, I'm assuming
there must be something wrong or incomplete with the their default DST
implementation. Otherwise, why would they have wasted their time to
developing the patches and the amount of help information on their website
related to them for these products. So, that's why.

Most of my issues have corrected themselves once I reset the time on my
computer and my pda. The patches changed my current time and my time zone on
both. Also, my all day events were all changed to 24 hour events running from
midnight one day to midnight the next. I had to manually convert all of those
back to all day events. I think everything is back to normal now though. It
is VERY frustrating to have to spend hours to repair years of calendar
history after something like this though. There really should be a file
somewhere detailing exactly what these patches are going to do to your events
so we'll know before we actually run them.

- Byron


"Todd Allcock" wrote:

> At 26 Feb 2008 04:50:02 -0800 Byron Followell wrote:
> > OK, here's a little more information. As I stated, the time on my AT&T
> Tilt
> > was set forward by two hours and ALL of my appointments were set back by
> two
> > hours. I double-checked and DST was on and my time zone was correct. I
> > correctly set the time on my PDA and most, not quite all, but most of my
> > appointments seem to have gone back to their correct times.
>
> Not to kick you when you're down, but hopefully to save the next person;
> why did you run the patches? AFAIK, neither Outlook 2007 nor WM6 require
> them. Both were released after the DST change was decided upon and already
> had the new DST rules coded in.
>
>
>

Posted by Todd Allcock on March 2, 2008, 4:13 am
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At 29 Feb 2008 02:06:01 -0800 Byron Followell wrote:

> The main reason I ran the patches to begin with were that some of my
> appointments were messed up to begin with, taking place a day earlier.
> Mother's Day was on a Saturday. Memorial Day was on a Sunday. That sort
of
> thing. It seemed to impact mostly annual recurring events but there were
> others too.

I'm having the same issues, however, after running the patches last year on
Outlook and my WM5 device made an even bigger clusterf--k of everything,
I'm waiting until the time change to see if everything sorts itself out
first!

> Several readers steered me towards this being DST issues. Also,
> since, Microsoft has released patches for WM6 and Outlook 2007, I'm
assuming
> there must be something wrong or incomplete with the their default DST
> implementation. Otherwise, why would they have wasted their time to
> developing the patches and the amount of help information on their
website
> related to them for these products. So, that's why.

Sorry, I just assumed they repackaged last year's patches with a new date.


> Most of my issues have corrected themselves once I reset the time on my
> computer and my pda. The patches changed my current time and my time zone
on
> both. Also, my all day events were all changed to 24 hour events running
from
> midnight one day to midnight the next. I had to manually convert all of
those
> back to all day events. I think everything is back to normal now though.
It
> is VERY frustrating to have to spend hours to repair years of calendar
> history after something like this though. There really should be a file
> somewhere detailing exactly what these patches are going to do to your
events
> so we'll know before we actually run them.

Agreed!


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