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Hard Drivce Upgrade Glitch new problem Pdigmking 06-24-2008
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Posted by Pdigmking on June 24, 2008, 11:14 am
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 OK, I appear to have successfully transfered the data from my old drive to
the new drive. I can look at the new drive by connecting via USB, and it
has all the files. The problem is, when I install it, it hangs, I just get
a blinking bar in the upper left hand corner of my screen. The old drive
continues to work fine by the way, I re-install it to work with this
computer, so it's the drive, not the computer. I thought the driver may be
an issue but it looks like it has a driver installed and it's working fine.
Is it possible that I'm screwing up by trying to use the USB connection
instead of an IDE cable? I've done all this on PCs, this is my first
laptop HD swap, in case you suspected. Any ideas?

Paul.

Posted by Steve Pearce on June 24, 2008, 12:52 pm
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>OK, I appear to have successfully transfered the data from my old drive to
>the new drive. I can look at the new drive by connecting via USB, and it
>has all the files. The problem is, when I install it, it hangs, I just get
>a blinking bar in the upper left hand corner of my screen. The old drive
>continues to work fine by the way, I re-install it to work with this
>computer, so it's the drive, not the computer. I thought the driver may be
>an issue but it looks like it has a driver installed and it's working fine.
>Is it possible that I'm screwing up by trying to use the USB connection
>instead of an IDE cable? I've done all this on PCs, this is my first
>laptop HD swap, in case you suspected. Any ideas?

I think it is missing the Master Boot Record (MBR). Cloning programs
should write this automatically, however other backups programs (I
have experience with Ghost and True Image) may need to be told to
write the MBR as a specific operation when wring to the new drive.

Posted by BillW50 on June 24, 2008, 1:53 pm
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Pdigmking typed on Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:14:43 GMT:
> OK, I appear to have successfully transfered the data from my old
> drive to the new drive. I can look at the new drive by connecting
> via USB, and it has all the files. The problem is, when I install
> it, it hangs, I just get a blinking bar in the upper left hand corner
> of my screen. The old drive continues to work fine by the way, I
> re-install it to work with this computer, so it's the drive, not the
> computer. I thought the driver may be an issue but it looks like it
> has a driver installed and it's working fine. Is it possible that I'm
> screwing up by trying to use the USB connection instead of an IDE
> cable? I've done all this on PCs, this is my first laptop HD swap,
> in case you suspected. Any ideas?
>
> Paul.

Well I didn't want to mention this as nobody else seems to talk about
it. But formatting and partitioning a HD in an USB box creates some
weird geometry that sticking it back in an IDE slot doesn't always
understand. I'm thinking like when I did that with Partition Magic 8 in
an USB box. Then put it back in a desktop. Then PM8 saw it as a a
foreign partition that it wouldn't do anything with. But Windows could
see all of the files within it.

--
Bill
Gateway Celeron M 370 (1.5GHZ)
MX6124 (laptop) w/1GB
Windows XP Home SP2 (60GB HD)
Intel(r) 910GML (64MB shared)


Posted by Pdigmking on June 24, 2008, 2:26 pm
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>
> Well I didn't want to mention this as nobody else seems to talk about
> it. But formatting and partitioning a HD in an USB box creates some
> weird geometry that sticking it back in an IDE slot doesn't always
> understand. I'm thinking like when I did that with Partition Magic 8 in
> an USB box. Then put it back in a desktop. Then PM8 saw it as a a
> foreign partition that it wouldn't do anything with. But Windows could
> see all of the files within it.
>

See, that's what I'm beginning to think. Do they sell IDE cables for
laptops that can be used instead of the USB set-up?

Paul.

Posted by BillW50 on June 24, 2008, 3:46 pm
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Pdigmking typed on Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:26:30 GMT:
> $834e42db@reader.greatnowhere.com:
>
>> Well I didn't want to mention this as nobody else seems to talk about
>> it. But formatting and partitioning a HD in an USB box creates some
>> weird geometry that sticking it back in an IDE slot doesn't always
>> understand. I'm thinking like when I did that with Partition Magic 8
>> in an USB box. Then put it back in a desktop. Then PM8 saw it as a a
>> foreign partition that it wouldn't do anything with. But Windows
>> could see all of the files within it.
>>
>
> See, that's what I'm beginning to think. Do they sell IDE cables for
> laptops that can be used instead of the USB set-up?
>
> Paul.

Well IMHO it works best getting cables for 3.5 to 2.5 on a desktop in my
experience. But if you are stuck with a laptop, I have heard that they
unplug the CD/DVD drive and use this for the second drive. I never tried
the latter though. Careful with the Master/Slave/Cable Select jumpers.

Some of these clone partition software comes with or you can make your
own bootable CD/DVD too. Thus another thing I have done is to clone a
partition or the whole drive on a USB 3.5 external drive (either USB or
IDE method works nicely). Then swap out the 2.5 and clone the one of the
3.5 external back to the new 2.5 drive. Of course you have to be running
from the OS from the CD/DVD to make this happen.

I have also did this to see if it would work. Once you have partition(s)
and made it bootable (the new drive). Use a bootable CD/DVD like BartPE
(free -- but it probably takes a few hours to make one). And just copy
all of the files from an external hard drive to the new drive (BartPE
has a Explorer [File Manager] like application). I didn't know if it
would work or not, but it did very nicely. ;-)

Also some hard drive manufactures also has free cloning programs too on
their websites. They have one job and one job only. To make an image of
the old and copy it to the new drive. I don't know if they work better,
but they do work with IDE cables.

--
Bill
Gateway Celeron M 370 (1.5GHZ)
MX6124 (laptop) w/1GB
Windows XP Home SP2 (60GB HD)
Intel(r) 910GML (64MB shared)


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