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Posted by Erwin Moller on October 8, 2008, 11:20 am
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Adrienne Boswell schreef:
> Gazing into my crystal ball I observed Erwin Moller
>
>> viza schreef:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 12:48:36 +0200, Erwin Moller wrote:
>>>> viza schreef:
>>>>> On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 11:46:33 +0200, Erwin Moller wrote:
>> It never is? Quite a statement.
>>
>> Please consider the following real life situation:
>> 1) A certain page is produced by PHP as a result from some huge
>> databasequery that is quite demanding for the server.
>>
>> 2) The user must select many tuples for editting.
>>
>> This is the moment I REALLY want a new window. The clicked tuple will
>> open in it, in a form, ready for editting and submitting back to the
>> server.
>> The server now only has to query one tuple, and I put it in a form.
>> Easy enough for the user, and easy for the server too.
>>
>> If I do NOT have the luxery of a new window, I must reload the whole
>> page, and open the tuple in an edit-form.
>>
>> This leads to:
>> 1) Heavy serverload
>> 2) Annoyed users (who must wait for each and every edittingaction)
>
Hi Adrienne,
Thanks for your response.
> Why not put the whole thing on one page? Divide the page, one side for
> the data, and the other side for the form. I do this all the time. No
> need for new windows.
Interesting.
But what do you mean excactly with 'divide the page'?
(No frames or iframes I presume, since they need a target in the
hyperlink to address them.)
It must be a 'standalone' window/document for this to work (work = Load
the form and relevant content into it without the full pagereload).
Do you use the OBJECT tag with HTML content?
Something like:
<OBJECT type="text/html" data="http://www.example.com/bla.php?id=33"
width="500" height="200"></OBJECT>
If so, how do you target that object to change the data attribute when a
client clicks on a hyperlink elsewhere?
Excuse me if I am slow, I am kind of new to this approach. ;-)
>
> <snip>
>
>> What is not clear is WHY it is removed in the STRICT doctype.
>>
>
> It was not removed. It never existed in the Strict doctype at all.
> That's why there is still Transitional.
Yes, I know that.
The mere name 'Transitional' alone suggest this is a doctype is ment to
be replaced in the future.
As I understand it: w3c encourages the use of strict.
So I try to use it now where I can.
>
> With that said, I have found one reason to open a link in a new window.
> Some flash sites, because of the way they were written, etc., do strange
> things to the back button, making it difficult to use to get back to the
> original page.
>
> In this case, I do the following:
> 1. Inform the user that link is going to open in a new window. I
> include this information on the page itself, and also in the title
> attribute of the link itself, eg: <a href="http://example.com/"
> title="Visit example in a new window" target="_blank">Example</a>.
Yes, I like to warn my visitors too when I open a new window.
>
> 2. Since I programatically send the doctype, I can put a variable on the
> page before it is rendered to switch the doctype, eg:
>
> $istransitional = true;
>
> if(isset($istransitional))
>
> else
>
>
Yes, that is a possibility.
But I prefer to keep my whole webapplication in the same doctype.
My psychiatrist is working on that. ;-)
I am curious how you split your page.
I might very well adopt that too since I want to keep using the STRICT
doctype.
Thanks for your time.
Regards,
Erwin Moller
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