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HTML beautifiers and table layout Meinolf Sander 10-17-2004
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Posted by Meinolf Sander on October 17, 2004, 12:23 pm
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Do you have experiences using HTML beautifiers (like
1st Page Editor) with nested table structures (like in
<http://www.nexanto.de/m+e.html>)?

Does the layout change significantly with non-text browsers
(i.e. not only in pixels, but in cms)?


Thanks.


Posted by Toby Inkster on October 17, 2004, 11:42 am
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Meinolf Sander wrote:
> Does the layout change significantly with non-text browsers
> (i.e. not only in pixels, but in cms)?

Indenting source code doesn't change the appearance in *any* browsers.

Except for some odd cases like <pre> and elements set to display like
<pre> using CSS, and sometimes within attribute values.

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Posted by Lauri Raittila on October 17, 2004, 2:08 pm
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Toby Inkster wrote;
> Meinolf Sander wrote:
> > Does the layout change significantly with non-text browsers
> > (i.e. not only in pixels, but in cms)?

What you mean with cms?

> Indenting source code doesn't change the appearance in *any* browsers.

That is not true.

if there is code like this

<table border>
<tr>
<td>
<img src=foo alt=foo>
</td>
</tr>
</table>

Changed to this:

<table border>
        <tr>
                <td>
                        <img src=foo alt=foo>
                </td>
        </tr>
</table>

White space should now be displayed, and IIRC, will be in many browsers.
(If browser has white space bug, there might be too much white space on
first one too trough.)

http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/text.html#whitespace
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/appendix/notes.html#notes-line-breaks
trough http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/text.html#idx-HTTP

Notice that last one is for authors...

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Posted by Meinolf Sander on October 17, 2004, 1:33 pm
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Lauri Raittila wrote:

>> Meinolf Sander wrote:
>>> Does the layout change significantly with non-text browsers
>>> (i.e. not only in pixels, but in cms)?
>
> What you mean with cms?

»centimetres«.


Posted by Lauri Raittila on October 17, 2004, 3:56 pm
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Meinolf Sander wrote;
> Lauri Raittila wrote:
>
> >> Meinolf Sander wrote:
> >>> Does the layout change significantly with non-text browsers
> >>> (i.e. not only in pixels, but in cms)?
> >
> > What you mean with cms?
>
> »centimetres«.

Might. One character width is maybe the most. One character can be many
centimeters... (though I only know a person using that big font - but
lots happen when using a data-projector...)

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